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1247:, but instruct all other editors to proceed. This language would make more sense if admins didn't get warnings on semi-protected pages (only on fully protected), but I don't believe this is the case. Is it possible to display different messages based on whether the page is semi-protected of fully protected? This would be the ideal solution, though from reading above, this message is apparently used for both cases (and thus the wording that attempt to cover both cases). 1851:{{#switch:{{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} |templateeditor = This page has been protected so that only users with ] or ] rights can make edits. Template editors are advised to consult ] of WP:TPE before making potentially controversial changes. |#default = This page has been protected so that only users with ] can make edits. Admins are advised to check the current version of the ] before making an edit. }} {{fmbox warning ruler}} </div: --> 21: 2185: 1904: 1808: 1332: 2242: 2007: 1973: 1872: 1776: 1841:{{#switch:{{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} |sysop = This page has been protected so that only users with ] can make edits. Admins are advised to check the current version of the ] before making an edit. |templateeditor = This {{#switch:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|10=template|828=module|#default=page <!-- shouldn't happen, but IAR and all that --: --> 1273:
is the person to bug; it was some change he made that caused it to appear on semi'd pages in the first place. He says it's not possible to have a unique semi'd page warning since MediaWiki has no concept of semi-protection; it's just one of a large number of configurations that can be made available
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This removes some complexity (no need to refer to templates or modules specifically, "page" is good for everything), and it also handles any future case where PROTECTIONLEVEL might not be sysop or templateeditor, by replacing sysop with #default. Also, changes "administrative and template-editor
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for a format that is small but hard to ignore/miss. I'd suggest an identical box (using the "usermessage" CSS class), but perhaps with a yellow or green color scheme. (To indicate this isn't an error or an important warning, but just a notice/minor warning). Something like
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I'm not sure all that is necessary. I've added a link to the policy, and really should know they shouldn't be editing a protected page. There seem to be more issues with sysops protecting pages they are involved with rather than editing them after they protected anyway.
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I was just thinking that at the end where it says "..can make edits" sounds kinda weird and redundant; and that it should follow the same format as the semi-protected warning and end with "... only those with administrative rights can edit it." Thanks,
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Since this warning can look rather close to the warning about 'This page is in excess of 30KB', I think making it stand out more (e.g. putting it in some nice red text :-) might be a good idea. Any thoughts?
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Agreed. It was just a thought. I think the number one thing to keep in mind is just not to do anything that might have the appearance of protecting a page in order to force an opinion on the community. --
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Better: "This page has been semi-protected temporarily, preventing anonymous and very new users from editing it." I hate to break it to you, but four-day-old editors are not experienced. :)
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It's — like I said above — just to keep consistency between prot warnings that a sysop may see while editing; in addition to that, it's just a walk on the creative side, instead of red text.
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Yeah, I'll confess the wording was poor, I was more concerned with the appearance. =) But I did change the wording to what you suggested because it does sound better, heh. —
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At the moment, this page is also served on semi-protected pages. This is confusing! Either the software needs to put up a different page, or this page needs to mention s-p.
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WARNING: This page has been locked so that only users with sysop privileges can edit it. Be sure you are following the <a href='/Wikipedia:Protection_policy': -->
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I think it should use a different message as well. I also think that this message (as well as any new semi-protected message) needs to be formatted differently. See
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Editing a semi-protected page is rather trivial. Editing a fully protected page is slightly less so, hence why this message is in red to ensure people see it. –
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which is semi-protected, and I wonder if it's because the wording doesn't make it plain that, if the user can see the notice, he is allowed to edit it.
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Thoughts? The wording for the semi-protection message is just a suggestion, there's probably a better way to word it. =) (And could use some input at
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This page has been fully protected so that only administrators can edit it. When editing this page, please ensure that you are following the
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Until very recently, this message was not displayed at all on semi'd pages, and I continue to think we should return to that.
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now has unnecessary code for extendedconfirmed but new software features sometimes regress so let's keep it for the moment.
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to this page, followed by a description of your request. Consider announcing discussions you add here at
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This page has been protected so that only administrators can edit it. Ensure that you are following the
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This page has been protected so that only administrators can edit it. Be sure you are following the
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This page has been protected so that only administrators can edit it. Be sure you are following the
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Would anyone object to me adding a div box to the this message (like below), for consistency?
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It should be under semi instead of this. This will require something along the lines of
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The discussion you are linking to seems to be this one that now is in the archives:
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A discussion to standardise the styles for boxes of this kind has been started at
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Also, your replies are quite prompt; do you have this page watched or something?
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Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive80#Admins editing protected pages
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Frankly, I find the current warning message aweful. I much prefer this one:
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page (which the user will only be able to do with appropriate permissions).
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The page forms part of the MediaWiki interface, and can only be edited by
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temporarily, preventing anonymous and very new users from editing it.
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Could someone change the display to that similar to the warning on
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in both places where that occurs because the section name at
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I'm a little confused by why we ask admins to first read
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And something like this for any semi-protection message–
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rights" to "administrative or template-editor rights".
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Just to keep a consistent style between prot-warnings.
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I have proposed a change to the format of this box in
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All other editors may proceed. 75:to bring more people to the discussion. 2130:epicgenius @ 20:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC) 2060:epicgenius @ 15:35, 6 April 2016 (UTC) 2176:Protected edit request on 21 May 2016 61:To request a change to the page, add 7: 1019:protected page guidelines</a: --> 2144:MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning 2056:MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning 1738:Or something like that. 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