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Thanks for letting me know. I doubt that we need hard data right now, but to understand the situation a little better: is your opinion that more people are creating user names that are their own names, more promotional names, more rude names, or what other category of bad names? The information about
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I think usurpations are a far too rare thing to have mentioned in a high-profile message such as this. It adds lines that almost no one needs to read, thereby causing more people to skim over the entire thing. I think that almost everyone that usurps names is familiar with the process and will read
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We think that this will seriously help in limiting the backlog of improper usernames in RFCN and AIV. Furthermore, the selection of those usernames, may actually be in good faith, since people may be creating accounts from e.g. their office. I'd be really mad if I were in their shoes and found myself
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I see. What I was trying to say was that, by providing an e-mail address, you would be able to e-mail other Wikipedians who have also have an e-mail set in this preference. Otherwise, you will be unable to e-mail them (unless you happen to know their address). The e-mail provided would be used as the
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Hmmm. Why do you think that? Because it's redundant? Or because it's poorly phrased? I agree that it's not the best in the world, but I haven't yet thought of a better alternative save the idea brought forth by Flcelloguy. Oh, and by the way, I have the same problem with Bugzilla. I don't really know
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We should definitely discourage real names. OpenBSD prides itself on being 'secure by default'; we're only an encyclopedia and not an operating system, but I think the same principle applies. It's just not a good idea to by default give away sensitive and personal information like that; even if you
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I agree that the changes suggested are a little wordy, especially the one about the email. I'd also point out that when you actually go to mail a user, that page does say 'The e-mail address you entered in your user preferences will appear as the "From" address of the mail, so the recipient will be
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has pointed out there that the phrase "We won't reveal your address to anyone" isn't accurate, as we will if we legally need to. Also, I didn't realize at first that my e-mail would be visible to users that I sent mail to, or that it was required in order to send mail (yes, I know how clueless that
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The entire MediaWiki namespace is automatically fully protected. MediaWiki: pages cannot be unprotected or bumped down to semiprotection; there isn't even a "protect"/"unprotect" option on them. This is a feature of the MediaWiki software. If this page contained images or transcluded text, then
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I didn't realize at first that when you send another user e-mail, he will be able to see your e-mail address. I know that sounds clueless, but I honestly assumed that when I sent another user an e-mail, my address would either be anonymized or it wouldn't be shown. I figure that if I can make this
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I don't have any actual data to back up this claim, but to me it seems that we are getting a greater frequency of new users requesting rename at WP:CHUS because of username policy issues, perhaps due to the complete removal of any information about the username policy during the signup process. I
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A few users have recently come under various degrees of real-world harrassment due to their use of their real names on Knowledge, at least one of which regrets doing so. Due to the existence of mirrors, etc. it isn't really possible to "take back" having revealed ones' real name, yet it is always
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What I mean is that it is a long and overly complicated sentence, with a complicated punctuation structure which takes several attempts to figure out. And even then, never having used the facilities in question, I am not sure what it is trying to say. E.g. I'm not sure if you are talking about a
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and receiving only supporting voices, I removed the very verbose, warning filled version in favor of a very much shorter version. This version is friendlier, doesn't repeat information that can be read at the top of the same page, and links to all the information that was present in the earlier
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I think the two major problems are 1) people creating accounts using a company name and 2) people creating an account using the real name and later realizing what a bad idea that is. I realize the link leads to the information about this, but probably not many people are following the link.
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think it a good idea to discourage this practice. Yes, we should warn people of the possible consequences, but I think allowing people to use their real name encourages the sort of Wikipedians we want here, people who will stand behind what they write and write what they would stand behind.
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I think that this will be helpful, not to mention more honest. It's going to be a little bit longer than before. However, I think that the gain in information and accuracy is worth it. If anyone has better texts, please suggest themβ€”I don't like my "unless it's legally required" addition
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I'd disagree with this, as the purpose of the ACC tool is for people who for whatever reason cannot create an account themselves (e.g. it's too similar to an existing account, or they can't read the captcha) - it's not really for people who are unsure if there account name is valid. --
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The link just leads to the username policy page, but not to the bit that discusses use of real name. Presumably, when that link was added, the username policy had a section called "Real names versus pseudonyms". As the page is protected, could an administrator please change the link to
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I would think that that would be essential. That's a problem, in my mind. If that's our privacy policy, then it should read "We won't release your e-mail address to anyone unless it's legally required." That doesn't sound great, but if that's the truth, then that's the truth.
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usernames have already been registered, most common names and words have already been taken. Therefore, be creative when making up your username: Choose an unusual name or word, make a creative combination of words, or modify the name in a unique way (for example by adding a
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Due to the recent occurences of hacked admin accounts, perhaps we should add a line about password strength to this page, so that new users (perhaps future admins) pick a secure password from the get-go. I would suggest something like:
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procedure for, as far as I can tell, asking for an email address and then publishing it to the whole world without even a single warning!) I would point out, though, that the sentence "However, giving your e-mail address allows
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Well the use of the "@" character has been disabled, but I could still make my username centrx_the_baffled_admn_at_wikipedia.org as my username, thus giving away my e-mail address (and no, that is not my real e-mail address).
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Note also that if you are under 18, disclosing your age is not recommended. Besides the legal issues, you will be discriminated against by established contributors, who will label you as "immature", regardless of your actual
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Knowledge facility, or email in general. Basically I just think that whatever is trying to be said could be said a whole lot more clearly. If I understood it I would offer a suggestion! Matt 00:10, 21 November 2005 (UTC).
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Should the text be semi-protected? A couple socks went through here today, though the damage was undone rather quickly. However I think semi may be in order on this text, but I wanted to know your thoughts on it first?
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are not especially obvious to a new Wikipedian. I'm thinking of names like "FooBot", which require some understanding of Knowledge operations to see why they are inappropriate. The current message does include links to
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if you are considering to use your real name." (I actually think we should encourage people to identify themselves, because it will make them more cautious about what they write and it will generate trust.) --
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That was my suspicions as well. If this is a problem that you feel that we should deal with, feel free to add something on the Fancycaptcha page, but try to keep it to below two short sentences. Thank you.//
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you enter will be propagated to other servers beyond our control, and thus will be forever attached to any contributions you make. Proceed with caution, or be brave and stand up for what you believe." β€”
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possible to reveal it later if necessary or desirable. Should we discourage users from using their real name as their usernames, or at least warn of the risks? And do something similar on the
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There. Instead of adding Yet Another bullet point, I put the link behind "offensive, confusing, or unreadable text or characters", which has the useful effect of putting it at the top.
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This happens so much now that people are actually beginning to tolerate it; this baffles and appalls me, but the least we can do is warn new users that this may be the case –
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I just signed up and noticed the misspelling "disrpution" under Privacy, second bullet point. If, in fact, this is the correct British spelling, I apologise.
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other users to send you mail without knowing your address, and enables password reminders to be requested." is gobbledegook. Matt 11:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC).
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I'm interested in any suggestions others may have here, and maybe someone else will have a better wording than mine. Hopefully these changes will be helpful. --
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used - I think that it is probably because people mistakenly think that you need to have an account to be able to use (as opposed to edit) the encyclopedia.
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I don't think users should be actively discouraged from using their real name, but a short note warning them of the possible consequences is a good idea.
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I don't really like the proposed changes, as both sound kind of wordy and may scare some users aware. For the first one, why not ask a Board member (try
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We don't use the real name by default, do we? I don't understand at all how you conclude that "we should discourage" from the rest of your comment. --
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Please note that you do not need an account to USE Knowledge to find information - you can do that without registering. However, an account has many
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However, giving your e-mail address allows other users to send you mail without knowing your address, and enables password reminders to be requested.
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why they do that the way they do: it seems like there's surely a better way to give out contact information without compromising privacy so much.
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to create accounts, to actually go through with it. So, assuming that newcomers prefer a friendlier version, the number of new accounts
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Thanks. You may want to reposition it below the "celebrities", in case you agree it would be more logical in terms of continuity.
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much, but I think that that or a phrase like it is mandated to be consistent with our prvacy policy. Sorry to be pedantic, folks.
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I didn't really like them that much myself (my changes, I mean). You have a good point in saying that that message is already in
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Please replace the three spaced hyphens ( - ) with spaced en-dashes ( – ), for the sake of general style consistency (see the
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think that some middle ground should be struck between the previous and the current implementations of the signup page. –
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If you want to seek approval for a username, you can do so by filing a request at Knowledge:Request an account.
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listed in RFCN or AIV without a warning from the sign up page. Can we include that in the sign up page please?
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But I think at least there must be something to help newcomer who wants a name which is already registered. --
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that'd be another matter - MediaWiki: namespace protection doesn't cascade - but that isn't the case here. -
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other users to send you mail without knowing your address, and enables password reminders to be requested."
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Add the following text near the end of this message, after the bit warning you not to use your real name:
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other users to send you mail without knowing your address, and enables password reminders to be requested.
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to this page, followed by a description of your request. Consider announcing discussions you add here at
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Redisign is all right, but if a page is moved, it should be moved to a working location, not blanked. -
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was a good addition, since it's confusing for non-admins, and admins are supposed to know how to open
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I don't want to hurt your feelings, Gurch, but the suggestion seemed a bit trollish and
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Would it be beneficial to add a mention of this? Perhaps something along the lines of:
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This should be added at or near the top (as this appears under all the sign up stuff).
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Given the recent Seigenthaler controversy, I, as a proud real-name user, definitely do
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sounds, but I didn't really think about it until later). I've proposed some changes at
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It's a little long for the short tips; since we welcome anonymous contributors (as in
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Agree with Canderson7; a light word of warning would be OK, but not a discouragement.
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if you want to edit the encyclopedia as opposed to just using it to find information.
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create their account, as I said above, and I will be leaving a message about this on
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I think "Consider not ..." is already too much of a discouragement. How about "See
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able to reply.' Maybe we should bold some of that text to highlight the issue? β€”
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existing company names (including not-for-profit organizations) and trademarks
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The reason behind this edit is to further increase the number of people who
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Okay, a light warning seems reasonable. How about something like "Consider
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The page forms part of the MediaWiki interface, and can only be edited by
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increase slightly. You can follow the results, as soon as we have them
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Yeah, I'd go with the light warning rather than the discouragement.
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on Knowledge--you can always identify yourself later, if desired."
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m:Talk:Privacy policy#Email address releases (when required by law)
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m:Talk:Privacy policy#Email address releases (when required by law)
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Haven't e-mail addresses as usernames been technically disabled? β€”
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will probably often not be read, because people don't scroll down
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Proposed changes to text regarding visiblility of e-mail addresses
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For users who are unsure about policy, could we add a line about
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you to send mail to others, using this as the reply-to address,
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you to send mail to others, using this as the reply-to address,
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you to send mail to others, using this as the reply-to address,
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also used as text for the first button in the registration box.
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I think. I not, just reply here as I watch this page. Cheers,
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Certain other kinds of names related to Knowledge operations.
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Mention that an account is not needed to look up information
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I only see it there if I go to it while already logged in. β€”
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Your username will frequently appear publicly on the site
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Why isn't this text showing anymore on the sign up page?
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mistake, others can too. Here's the text as it is now:
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be mentioned. Because once I've changed my name from
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I'd like to suggest that a sentence mentioning about
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Seems like a typo, calling for an admin to fix it. β€”
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I was going to suggest an additional note to put in
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I was looking at plain 1166:Here's my proposed text (changes shown in bold): 1072:" link under the heading in the registration box. 1615:I agree with you completely about this point. β€” 2404:A link to the usurpation page is prominent in 1733:It shows up fine for me when not logged in. β€” 2992:MediaWiki messages with interface explanation 2504:(large page) and then do some text search. β€” 2133:Knowledge:Username_policy#Choosing_a_username 1950:) company-usernames that have been listed in 1846:This is indeed a more accurate definition. -- 544: 100: 8: 1894:was displayed to the right (or left) of the 1890:So wouldn't it be better if the content of 1170:However, giving your e-mail address allows 2764:Approximately 85% of all new accounts are 1946:Following a recent spree of improper (per 551: 537: 529: 107: 93: 85: 2113:At the bottom of the page, it says this: 1929:Move these notes to the right of the form 1872:Move these notes to the right of the form 1335:I agree with the sentiments expressed by 1005:mw:Manual:Interface/Special pages summary 1134:Note: the exact link may be found here: 2356:Knowledge:Changing username/Usurpations 2198:for help in choosing a strong password. 2184:For your own security, please choose a 2109:"Pros and cons of using your real name" 79:to bring more people to the discussion. 1962:that are not explicitly listed in the 1471:At least a warning would be helpful. 1052:– Heading inside the registration box 2628:Could a line about ACC be added here? 1800:Sounds like an excellent idea to me. 65:To request a change to the page, add 7: 2929:text above the account creation form 2148:Done. Thanks for the suggestion. -- 1044:MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount 1779:WP:USERNAME#Inappropriate_usernames 1339:. (Somewhere here I criticised the 2335:Ah, trolling. Should have known – 2298:Any particular reason for that? – 1194:Knowledge:Village Pump (proposals) 1091:All the above messages understand 77:Knowledge:Village pump (technical) 14: 2373:the rules and directions first. β€” 2751: 2541: 2466: 2278: 2229: 2040: 2000: 1651:it's perfectly safe, you may be 1479: 1017: 311:Titleblacklist-custom-editnotice 19: 1954:, there was a short discussion 2709:Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy 2606:23:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC) 2582:21:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC) 2561:21:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC) 2535:21:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC) 2420:20:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC) 1773:Usernames that will be blocked 1034:– Heading for the entire page. 147:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary 31:is displayed at the bottom of 1: 2819:Good idea. 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