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Arthur Guinness II

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The late 1830s was a time of transition. The family flour mill in Kilmainham was sold in 1838 on the passing of the Bread (Ireland) Act. The partnerships with his brothers had ended by 1840; His eldest son was a clergyman; and his second son, the third Arthur Guinness, had resigned in 1839 due to a
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and the post-war depression, the removal of the former aristocracy to London, and the difficult and deflationary currency union of 1818–26 between the old Irish pound and the pound sterling, Guinness persevered in banking. As a result of his networking he was one of the Dubliners chosen to greet
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On his marriage to Anne Lee in 1793 the lease of the brewery was assigned to their marriage settlement, proof that he was intended to take over the management of the brewery on his father's death. At the time his younger brothers Benjamin (d.1826) and William (d.1842) were also working in the
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On his father's death in January 1803, he and his brothers Benjamin and William Lunell created a partnership trading as: "A. B. & W.L. Guinness & Co, brewers and flour millers". He bought Beaumont House from his elder brother the Revd. Hosea Guinness, who was Rector of
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This opposition was inflamed by O'Connell's son Daniel junior being given the neighbouring Phoenix brewery to run from 1831, despite his lack of experience, which had failed within a few years. But from the late 1830s the O'Connells lost all interest in brewing when
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A great change was taking place all over the world. Men were awakening. Reason and intelligence were on their majestic way, and everywhere the good principle was beginning to be asserted that Governments were instituted for the benefit of the people..
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Thereafter his third son Benjamin managed the brewery from 1839 with the Purser family, with Arthur, by now aged 70, involved only with the larger decisions. On Arthur's death in 1855 Benjamin became sole owner of the business. In turn, his third son
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To the Magennis arms were impaled, by the Second Arthur, those purporting to be of his wife, Anne Lee: on a bar, between three black crescents, a gold shamrock. The Iveagh arms today are an impalement of 'Guinness' and
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The things most likely to produce this most desirable end are the total removal of the remaining barriers between us and our Roman Catholic brethren and a constitutional reform in the representation of the people in
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I thought they had a better spirit; but at all events, they have now the recollection of their conduct without the consolation of having inflicted any real injury. With contemptuous pity I dismiss the Guinnesses
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In 1804 his brother Benjamin married Rebecca Lee, Anne's sister. Their daughter Susan married Arthur's eldest son, Revd. William S. Guinness, in 1826.
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Due to the halving of brewery sales in 1815–20 down to a million gallons a year, the partnership relied on profits from its flour mills during the
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Sales grew from 360,936 gallons in 1800 to 2,133,504 gallons by 1815. A slump followed, with sales dropping from 66,000 barrels to 27,000 by 1820.
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arising from his selection as one of the four members sent by the Dublin Brewers' Guild, under the old elective system that was reformed by the
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brewery from the 1780s. In 1790 his father, then aged 65, commented in a letter that the expansion of his brewery was partly due to his help:
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This was in contrast to O'Connell, who spoke in sympathy, but achieved so little for the poor. O'Connell's allies, the Liberals, were led by
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to mill flour for the expanding city's population. This was due to the expansion of Irish exports and commerce fostered from 1779 by the
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policy would worsen the effects of the famine in 1846–49, refusing to send sufficient emergency supplies. In contrast, the conservative
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Quarterly, 1st and 4th, Per saltire Gules and Azure a Lion rampant Or on a Chief Ermine a Dexter Hand couped at the wrist of the first
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refused the same arms but granted similar arms that were recoloured. Arthur impaled the arms of his wife's family, the Lees.
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levied in Britain and Ireland, easing his higher-value exports to Britain, and so Arthur became more of a supporter of the
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annually, equivalent to 4,212,000 gallons. Of these, 42,000 hogsheads were exported, mainly to the British market.
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when Arthur voted for the conservatives (then a public act), and from now on he opposed O'Connell's proposals to
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when he took his seat in the House of Commons. In May 1831 he spoke at a meeting campaigning for what became the
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between 1804 and 1847, eventually becoming its Governor in 1820–22. The bank's headquarters were the former
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in the 1840s, with occasional visits to Dublin. He died at Beaumont in 1855, aged 87, and was buried at
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In the background Arthur's brewery benefited hugely until the 1830s from the difference between the
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as it was in the 1830s, having been a supporter of Grattan's form of home rule in his youth.
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of the 1840s, Arthur called on his son Benjamin to donate to the starving, adding that:
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In 1814, Arthur joined his brother Hosea in applying for a grant to use the arms of the
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Lynch & Vaizey, "Guinness's Brewery in the Irish Economy 1759–1876" CUP 1960, p124.
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http://www.rds.ie/cat_historic_member_detail.jsp?itemID=1101116&item_name=Guinness
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he deplored both official and rebel violence, and assumed that the solution would be
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In 1839 Guinness assisted his nephew John in establishing a short-lived brewery in
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on 7 May 1793. His wife Anne (1774–1817) was a daughter of the Dublin builder and
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2nd and 3rd, Argent on a Fess between three Crescents Sable a Trefoil slipped Or
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Benjamin Lee and his wife, Susanna Smyth. They had nine children, including:
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crusade. By 1839 O'Connell was describing Arthur in a private letter as a: "
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The Dublin Catholic Board commented in 1813 that he and his brothers were: "
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Arthur supported Catholic Emancipation from at least the 1790s, but not the
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Arthur had also become interested in banking and was appointed to the
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By his death in 1855, St James's Gate was brewing and selling 78,000
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In 1829 he helped raise £30,000 for Daniel O'Connell at the time of
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Arthur Lee Guinness (1797–1863), art collector and brewer until 1839
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of 1841–46 had at least organised deliveries of food in late 1845.
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Arthur remarried, to Maria Barker, in 1821; they had no children.
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A Bottle of Guinness Please": The Colourful History of Guinness
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A Bottle of Guinness Please": The Colourful History of Guinness
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From its rebuilding in 1797–99 the brewery had stopped brewing
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Having established a huge growth in exports Arthur retired to
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Irish brewer, banker, politician and flour miller (1768–1855)
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Wilson D. "Dark and Light" Weidenfeld, London 1998, pp.41–42
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notes on stout beer by Martyn Cornell; accessed 30 Sept 2014
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Elizabeth Guinness (1813-1897); married Revd William Jameson
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and his wife Olivia Whitmore, and was born at their home at
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For "Arthur II Guinness", see the RDS website: www.rds.ie.
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His early support for Daniel O'Connell changed during the
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O'Connell then editorialised with regret in his journal,
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Susanna Guinness (1804–36); married the Revd John Darley
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Despite the drop in Dublin's commerce caused by the
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The Silver Salver: The Story of the Guinness Family
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Index


"Blue and Buff"
Beaumont, Dublin
Guinness Brewery
Sir Benjamin Guinness, 1st Baronet
Arthur Guinness
Guinness
Dublin
Arthur Guinness
Arthur Guinness
Beaumont
Beaumont Hospital, Dublin
Grafton Street
Bewley's
St James's Gate
Hibernian
River Camac
Kilmainham
Irish Patriot Party
St. Werburgh's Church, Dublin
steam engine
Boulton and Watt
ale
porter
Stout
Benjamin Disraeli
the Carlton
malt tax
union
Bristol

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