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Caroline. So times have certainly changed. I guess that’s why I'm ready to open up. It feels weird and wrong to play this revelation about Karen's life and not talk about my own." Speaking about working with Chappell, Johnson joked that, despite being straight, Chappell was "more comfortable playing gay" than Johnson was. Johnson revealed that "When we first met up at the show we had to shoot some photos — vacation-type snapshots of Karen and Dani to put on the mantel — and I felt kind of nervous and awkward. I think Crystal thought I was a little crazy but when I explained that I hadn't yet come out publicly, she got it and has been very lovely and supportive."
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and had two kids and a wonderful life. When we finished shooting, I ran to my dressing room and just cried and cried because I knew I was never going to have that kind of life. And now on B&B we're finding out that Karen is married to this great lady Dani and together they have raised her
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