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Contradictory thoughts do not try to eliminate one another, but continue side by side, and often combine to form condensation-products, as though no contradiction existed. The suppressed psychic material, which in the waking state has been prevented from expression and cut off from internal
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The kettle "logic" of the dream-work is related to what Freud calls the embarrassment-dream of being naked, in which contradictory opposites are yoked together in the dream. Freud said that in a dream, incompatible (contradictory) ideas are simultaneously admitted.
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perception by the mutual neutralization of contradictory attitudes , finds ways and means, under the sway of compromise-formations, of obtruding itself on consciousness during the night.
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Though the three arguments are inconsistent, Freud notes that it is so much the better, as if even one is found to be true then the man must be acquitted.
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Freud relates the story of a man who was accused by his neighbour of having returned a kettle in a damaged condition and the three arguments he offers.
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wherein one uses multiple arguments to defend a point, but the arguments are inconsistent with each other.
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The peculiarities of the logic of the dream-work can be seen taking place almost from the beginning of
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comes from Jacques Derrida from an example used by Sigmund Freud for the analysis of "Irma's dream" in
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uses this expression in reference to the humorous "kettle-story" related by
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to a knowledge of the unconscious element in out psychic life.
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Kabbalah and postmodernism: a dialogue By Sanford L. Drob
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Index

The pot calling the kettle black
French
rhetorical device
Jacques Derrida
Sigmund Freud
The Interpretation of Dreams
Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious
The Interpretation of Dreams
Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious
Dilemma
Alternative pleading
Argument in the alternative
List of fallacies
Rereading Freud: psychoanalysis through philosophy
Kabbalah and postmodernism: a dialogue By Sanford L. Drob
Elliot R. Wolfson
"Oneiric Imagination and Mystical Annihilation in Habad Hasidism"
The Interpretation of Dreams
via regia
"Kettle Logic – Freud on Defensive Arguments"
Categories
Informal fallacies
Dream
Rhetorical techniques
Jacques Derrida
Sigmund Freud

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