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was the first new design of engine to be built by Webb since he became Chief
Engineer of the LNWR in September 1871. A policy of 'low costs' was in force at the LNWR, with running costs per engine mile reduced from
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Between 1905 and 1907, 45 Coal
Engines were rebuilt as tank locomotives with a single square saddle tank perched on the boiler and a small coal bunker behind the cab.
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service they were very reliable. "17in" refers to their cylinder diameter in inches. They were called "Coal
Engines" because they were used for hauling
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is quoted as regarding the type as "probably the simplest and cheapest locomotives ever made in this country", and
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sold them all for scrap by 1922. This may have been due partly to the poor quality of water used in
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d by 1871. The first 17in Coal was constructed in 1873, the first of almost five hundred built.
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Premier Line – The Story of London & North Western Locomotives
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took many Coal
Engines for use overseas, including many to the
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17 in × 24 in (432 mm × 610 mm)
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1,800 imperial gallons (8,200 L; 2,200 US gal)
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Locomotives of the London and North
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1489:Standard gauge steam locomotives of Great Britain
523:Many aspects of the 17in Coal's design reflected
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737:ABC of British Railways Locomotives, Part Three
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752:. Tourret Publishing. pp. 28, 57, 127.
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1479:Railway Operating Division locomotives
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17:
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34:London Road station, Manchester
179:15 ft 6 in (4.724 m)
1443:British Railways steam locomotives
850:(North Eastern Division 1846–1857)
219:17.1 sq ft (1.59 m)
169:4 ft 3 in (1.295 m)
14:
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837:London and North Western Railway
436:London and North Western Railway
26:
498:described them as "splendid".
308:16,530 lbf (73.5 kN)
1:
1023:(Southern Division 1847–1862)
1004:(Southern Division 1846–1847)
960:(Northern Division 1857–1862)
875:(Northern Division 1846–1857)
584:227 Coal Engines passed into
187:32.00 long tons (32.5 t)
519: hours in February 1878
227:140 psi (0.97 MPa)
567:British Expeditionary Force
476:per engine mile in 1857 to
348:British Expeditionary Force
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571:Palestine Military Railway
559:Railway Operating Division
353:Palestine Military Railway
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1421:No new locomotive classes
1011:Bury Bar Frame locomotive
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1314:Charles John Bowen Cooke
748:Cotterell, Paul (1984).
600:stock. BR numbers were
592:. 35 survived until the
569:in France and 42 to the
32:No. 3209 stands outside
1042:Wolverton Express Goods
654:"Goods Engines of LNWR"
450:Design and construction
216: • Grate area
520:
767:Hughes, Hugh (1981).
527:'s final design: the
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418:LNWR 17in Coal Engine
384:London Midland Region
21:LNWR 17in Coal Engine
1484:Scrapped locomotives
1090:Francis William Webb
769:Middle East Railways
596:in 1948 and entered
1499:Freight locomotives
743:. 1948. p. 51.
298:Performance figures
1257:19in Express Goods
873:Francis Trevithick
575:Palestine Railways
529:0-6-0 Special Tank
521:
240: • Tubes
1469:0-6-0 locomotives
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797:. pp. 64–65.
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1384:H. P. M. Beames
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1357:Prince of Wales
1350:Prince of Wales
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1143:Greater Britain
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1052:John Ramsbottom
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1037:McConnell Goods
1021:James McConnell
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958:John Ramsbottom
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695:Hughes (1981)
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1207:18in Goods (
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1197:4ft 6in Tank
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1080:Special Tank
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432:Francis Webb
430:designed by
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406:All scrapped
284:Slide valves
62:Francis Webb
15:
1415:(1922–1923)
1386:(1920–1921)
1316:(1909–1920)
1243:(1903–1909)
1209:Cauliflower
1129:Dreadnought
1111:Coal Engine
1092:(1871–1903)
1061:4ft Shunter
1054:(1862–1871)
1002:Edward Bury
840:locomotives
683:Nock (1952)
671:Nock (1952)
638:Nock (1952)
602:58321-58361
553:During the
403:Disposition
372:Power class
253:Two, inside
184:Loco weight
73:Crewe Works
1458:Categories
1343:Queen Mary
1251:Experiment
1231:1400 Class
1122:Experiment
889:Velocipede
787:Nock, O.S.
616:References
496:O. S. Nock
375:LMS/BR: 2F
280:Valve type
274:Stephenson
269:Valve gear
200:Water cap.
79:Build date
50:Power type
1329:Claughton
1270:Precursor
1263:Precursor
1216:18in Tank
1177:Precedent
1175:Improved
1169:Precedent
1162:Precursor
1156:Dock Tank
1150:John Hick
1116:Coal Tank
972:(renewed)
938:LFB goods
933:SFB goods
795:Ian Allan
741:Ian Allan
579:Palestine
549:Operation
456:17in Coal
398:1921–1953
395:Withdrawn
390:(briefly)
326:Operators
249:Cylinders
192:Fuel type
175:Wheelbase
82:1873–1892
1336:George V
1191:Waterloo
1136:Teutonic
969:Cornwall
897:Cornwall
789:(1952).
608:Rebuilds
446:trains.
434:for the
338:S&MR
235:
211:
208:Firebox:
152: in
114:
58:Designer
1184:Jubilee
1031:Bloomer
987:Problem
927:Courier
561:of the
540:⁄
514:⁄
485:⁄
468:⁄
147:⁄
68:Builder
1278:Renown
1074:Newton
1067:Samson
905:Rocket
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380:Locale
321:Career
164:Driver
71:LNWR,
967:3020
918:Raven
425:steam
422:0-6-0
133:Gauge
126:0-6-0
121:Whyte
53:Steam
1359:Tank
1323:1185
1272:Tank
925:176
903:290
895:173
887:187
773:ISBN
754:ISBN
557:the
454:The
444:coal
416:The
333:LNWR
195:Coal
166:dia.
1403:G2A
1393:380
976:271
586:LMS
358:LMS
343:ROD
92:499
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