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Himself, and He did so in the Cross of His Son." Forsyth began formulating what he called "God's own theodicy" with Romans 1:17: "the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith". There he found the righteousness of God revealed in the Christ who "is the theodicy of God and the justifier both of God and the ungodly."
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There was no theodicy extant to which Forsyth could turn. In spite of his extensive theological studies, he could find no satisfactory “philosophical theodicy or vindication of God's justice.” From this, Forsyth concluded that "no reason of man can justify God in a world like this. He must justify
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for the legal and juridical aspects of the cross; his interest centers on the manner in which the cross is inextricably linked with “the whole moral fabric and movement of the universe.” The doctrine of the atonement is inseparable from “the rightness of things.”
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Before the start of World War I, widely held views about God and human progress muted the theodic question. “Popular religion” had preached a God whose sole purpose was “to promote and crown development.” The “doctrine of progress” (first formulated by
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Forsyth's understanding of "God's own theodicy" as enabling a right relationship with God rather than a philosophical justification of God contrasts two alternative connotations of the word 'theodicy'. Theodicy derives from the Greek words
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to the bar of God’s own promise. In Christ, God is fully justified by Himself. If any man thinks he has anything to suffer in the flesh, God more. In all their afflictions He was more afflicted.
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While many of Forsyth's most significant insights have largely gone ignored, not a few consider him to be among the greatest English-speaking theologians of the early twentieth century.
323:'The Principle of Authority in Relation to Certainty, Sanctity and Society: An Essay in the Philosophy of Experimental Religion'. London: Independent Press, 1952 (1913). 125:). Where he differed from other kenotic theologies of the atonement was the claim that Christ did not give up his divine attributes but condensed them; i.e., the 821: 264:'Pulpit Parables for Young Hearers'. With J. A. Hamilton. Manchester/London: Brook & Chrystal/Simpkin, Marshall & Co.; Hamilton, Adams & Co., 1888. 227:
in God's "creation must the way upward lie through suffering?" "The tactics of providence cannot be traced," but "His purpose we have, and His heart. We have
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For Forsyth, "God's own theodicy" stood in contrast to theodicies devised by humans. God's own theodicy provided Forsyth no philosophical answers to
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represents an impassioned plea to allow the notion of the “justice of God” to be rediscovered. Forsyth is less concerned than
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and served churches as pastor at Bradford, Manchester, Leicester and Cambridge, before becoming Principal of
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made him suspect to some more 'orthodox' Christians. However, he increasingly came to the conclusion that
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and atonement. Although Forsyth rejected many of his earlier liberal leanings he retained many of
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was the expression of God's omnipotence rather than its negation. His theology and attack on
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theology of the next generation. He has sometimes been coined the 'Barthian before
118: 374:(Forsyth died in 1921, and dates after that are re-prints of earlier publications) 280:'Intercessory Services for Aid in Public Worship'. Manchester: John Heywood, 1896. 366: 308:'The Power of Prayer'. With Dora Greenwell. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1910. 98:. The experience helped to shape and inform a vigorous interest in the issues of 425: 126: 110: 755:
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790: 320:'Marriage: Its Ethic and Religion'. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1912. 185: 509:(Sheed and Ward, 1929; reprint Catholic University of America, 2001), 3. 409:
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338:'The Church and the Sacraments'. London: Independent Press, 1947 (1916). 443:
The Justification of God: Lectures for War-time on a Christian Theodicy
114: 350:'The Church, the Gospel and Society'. London: Independent Press, 1962. 317:'Faith, Freedom and the Future'. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1912. 16: 326:'Theology In Church and State.' London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1915. 99: 95: 786: 302:'The Cruciality of the Cross'. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1910. 447:
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failed to account adequately for the moral problem of the guilty
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doctrine of the incarnation (clearly influenced by Bishop
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connotes rational arguments. But a theodicy designed to
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362:'Christian Perfection'. New York: Dodd, Mead, 1899. 273:'The Holy Father and the Living Christ'. London: 708:Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) 367:https://pmoser.sites.luc.edu/ptforsytharchive/ 293:, 1907'. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1907. 43:The son of a postman, Forsyth studied at the 8: 507:Progress and Religion: An Historical Inquiry 468:http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-WW1.html 411:(Wiley-Blackwell, 2nd edition, 2012), 227. 424:(Basil Blackwell, 2004), 67, as cited in 365:Forsyth's works are available online at 396: 255:righteousness is primarily relational. 137:(1909), which anticipated much of the 133:can be found in his most famous work, 428:, “Evil and the Limits of Theology,” 7: 822:Scottish Congregationalist ministers 180:, Kenneth Surin points to Forsyth's 135:The Person and Place of Jesus Christ 405:Christian Theology: An Introduction 153:Christian Theology: An Introduction 14: 794: 710:, s.v. “righteoused.” Online at 422:Theology and the Problem of Evil 178:Theology and the Problem of Evil 778:Works by or about P. T. Forsyth 827:Scottish Christian theologians 251:connotes relationship. In the 1: 430:Theologyphilosphycentre.co.uk 31:, (1848–1921) was a Scottish 764:. 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theologian
University of Aberdeen
Göttingen
Albrecht Ritschl
Congregational
ministry
Hackney College, London
University of London
critical theology
liberal theology
conscience
atoning
Christ
holiness
Adolf von Harnack
Chalcedonian
Christology
kenotic
Charles Gore
Thomasius
incarnation
liberal Christianity
neo-orthodox
Barth
Alister E. McGrath
Anselm
theodicy
cross
Abbé de Saint-Pierre

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