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There's been somewhat of a trend across Knowledge away from putting identifiers for external databases into infoboxes, and instead storing the identifiers in Wikidata and showing them via an additional template on Knowledge that pulls them from Wikidata. I'm not aware of any appropriate templates of
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updating the infobox fields using VIVC's data, you'd really need to get that data into Wikidata first and then pull it back into Knowledge. I can't guide you through that process (lots of stuff I don't know much about), but a starting point would be to get support at Wikidata for a new property for
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Well, I'm probably a good representative of an ignorant public. When I first saw this painting, I didn't know it depicted Dionysus, or that this was a depiction of a wine god. My first thought was, "Aww, look, a baby drinking wine! And peeing. It looks like a classical painting, I wonder where this
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I am not looking to keep it out because of the nudity or peeing on the contrary I wholly support keeping WP uncensored. I am just saying is the image may not be representative of the subject to the majority of viewers who will view the portal. I am well aware of Bacchus/Dionysus and his association
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depicting the ancient god of the subject! I don't disagree that a picture of an unremarkable glass of wine conveys what the portal is about, but that's so... obvious. We already have this huge word "W I N E" at the top, and then, just in case readers fail to get the point, we have a picture of a
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This portal is about grape wines, but there are many other alcoholic drinks that are called "wines", but are made from rice, barley, and other grains. Should they have their own portal? They aren't quite beer, not quite wine in the traditional sense, and are not distilled like other alcohols.
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I ran across this picture on Knowledge Commons. I don't know about anyone else, but I think it would make a more interesting lead picture for this portal than a boring ol' glass of wine. It's cute, and adds some levity to this portal. (I also recently used this picture on my invitations to a
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The problem is what does the image convey? The majority of our readers will say "why do they have a picture of a naked kid chugging a bottle of wine and pissing at the same time? What the hell does that mean?" The glass of wine at least conveys the message what the portal is about.
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Only after reading the description and looking up the associated Knowledge entry did I realize its appropriateness. The pleasure I obtained in this learning process could be duplicated by others... I'm just sayin'. How about trying it out for a while and see if anyone responds?
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Anyway, I'm not going to insist on it, but I found the image amusing and inoffensive, and felt it would give this portal a nice edge. I would have added it myself but I kind of consider Jeremy as the keeper of things here, so I offer it on this talk page for consideration.
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The big WINE word on top of the portal made the portal look messy, it doesn't look nice at all. Can someone help me to change the it to other font type. Or maybe a simple PNG or SVG transparent image can be created to replace them. It looks really horrible.(X
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I know that you are the one who maintains the portal. I'm just giving some suggestions so that it look better. The problem with the four words is that it is in PNG. It is not scalable, plus you are streching the image. It is larger than its usual size.
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What makes it look terrible? I like them, then again I chose them. As I am the one maintaining this portal, I will be keeping them. If there is a consensus to change them, then we can.
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Secondly, there are some handy online open data sources about grape growing areas by variety and country. A handy one that I've been using is maintained by the
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The phrase "alcohol, love, and music" describes serious subjects. On the other hand, the rephrasing "wine, women, and song" seems more festive and fun.
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Just about all of them! Any pictures of wine regions, grape varieties or wine would be useful. In particular we need wine region maps that can be
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Shouldn't Portugal be on there somewhere? I mean, Argentina's there and they aren't as well known for their wines as Portugal is (Madeira, Porto)
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glass of wine. The image of the baby Dionysus conveys more than the portal's title; it says that wine is something to be enjoyed. And of course,
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I suggest that you change the W alphabet to 92px, and the others to 64px. Try to preview it first, I bet that it would look nicer :)
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Anyone in favor of balancing the portal a little over to the latter point of view? After all, most of us drink wine for pleasure. ~
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Open a link, then click the "Do it" button. If there are results, you can click the "Thumbnails" button to preview all the images.
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Ahhh - yes, I was wondering how the very awesome semantic data stuff worked, that's definitely very cool. Cheers for the tip :-)
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Greetings, not sure if this is the right place to discuss, it seems to have been pretty quiet lately; but I have updated the
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online database. It took me a few goes to get it right—sorry if I caused any inconvenience—as I had to wrestle with
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from the top of this page since it was expanding to 2MB of HTML, which caused templates to not work any more. See
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related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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this sort for wine grapes, so using the infobox to store the identifier is probably the best option at the moment.
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update the infobox fields, in a similar fashion to the bots that periodically update the software versions in the
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for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
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Knock yourself out. I am just glad someone besides me wants to take interest in this page. Finally. --
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Yes, I wouldn't mind having something decorative and eye-catching on the portal, and this looks good.
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field, or something like that, which we can manually keep up to date from appropriate online sources?
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mindlessly copy items to the portal page without first checking that the suggestions are appropriate.
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I have used these sources as well as books like the Oxford Companion (4ed.) to create the missing
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to get it to only display the link if it is provided. So, feel free to update your favourite
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And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful
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article, as well as update the growing area information and add missing infoboxes to
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with wine, what I am just saying is does the public at large know the association? --
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Content dispute discussions should take place on the appropriate article's talk page.
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article with the VIVC number, which you can search for on the VIVC online database
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The following suggestions have been automatically generated as content that
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On The Grape Variety Infobox Template And Updating Growing Area Statistics
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If you are a regular maintainer of this portal, please add yourself to
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Which Winegrape Varieties are Grown Where? A Global Empirical Picture
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Also, they are a set transparent PNG letters, btw, not a font. --
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For discussions about general portal development, please see the
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came from? This looks like a great mascot for the wine project!"
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began selling wine on December 5, 1933 – the day on which
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And why not if you use a font instead of an image ?
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portal
Wine
WikiProject Portals talk page
this list
Former featured portal
former featured portal
January 5, 2008
Peer review
January 27, 2008
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February 18, 2009
Featured portal review
Featured portal review
content assessment
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Food and drink
Wine
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Food portal
WikiProject Food and drink
food
drink
the discussion
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