670:) in our dress blues and carrying our fatigues to work in. This was a trip of 85 miles one way. It took close to 2 hours each way and we only had two shifts, 8 to 8 and vice-versa. That was 7 days a week. If you add that up it came out to 12 hours work and 4 hours travel which only leaves 8 hours. Plus you had to drive from the restaurant where we met to catch the bus, to where you lived. Pretty hard to get 8 hours sleep if you wanted to eat a meal. Plus we had those wonderful trenches for doing our business at the site. That was until they brought in the porta-pottys with the electric incinerators in them. You had to be careful not to turn the switch on while you were still sitting. And of course you can imagine what the smell was like when you hit the switch. ... After Goldwater we went to contracted A/C buses with crappers in the rear, 4 crews, never more than 8-hour duty days, a different crapper at work, and the whole situation got much improved with the change in command.
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one morning and fired the commander on the spot and sent Hill on a 30-day leave. Capt (at the time) Seitzberg was called in from Laurel to be the new commander and straighten out the problems. We arrived and (I'm talking about the single guys) found a rooming house where we could temporarily find a place to sleep. I guess the married folks used motels and started looking for houses to rent or buy. Mother Hill had us riding the old Blue Goose military buses from
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Bombardier Instructor School was transferred from Carlsbad, New Mexico, to Midland ... the "West Texas Bombardier Triangle" of bases at Big Spring (1942), San Angelo (1942), and Childress (1943), and were instrumental in developing photographic and sonic methods of
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Skyspot, directed over 300,000 USAF, Navy, Marine, and RVN re-supply, reconnaissance, and tactical air missions, as well as 75% of all B-52
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Bayshore Bomb Plot in Michigan (formerly located in Ironwood, Michigan) was destroyed by a television fire on 26 December 1967, and in 1969, the Combat Skyspot Trophy was first "awarded annually to the most outstanding detachment in the 1st Combat Evaluation Group".
602:"The Weapons Impact Scoring Set (WISS) is a manned video scoring set which scores the impact of air-to-ground delivered ordnance within a 4,000-ft (1219.2 m) radius of a defined land target under day or night conditions.""
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Lynchburg, Virginia, detachment, which was a mobile unit that had temporary radar stations at "
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Scoring and the Autotrack specialty were discontinued shortly after the end of the Cold War when increased munitions accuracy (e.g.,
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Scoring Centrals for estimating accuracy of simulated bombings. Scores for accuracy and
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636:"Combat Evaluation Group – A place for CEVG'ers and Range Rats to Meet".
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Range Planning and Operations (Air Force Instruction 13–212)
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1343:"Pen Moves on Tracing Paper and Charts Course of Bomber"
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also scored bomb runs of US Navy aircraft (e.g., out of
857:"Prescott Evening Courier – Google News Archive Search"
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Withers, Daniel A (17 February 2005). "Message 13073".
643:"Re: [Combat Evaluation Group] Re: RBS Express"
1129:"Spokane Daily Chronicle – Google News Archive Search"
887:"Spokane Daily Chronicle – Google News Archive Search"
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McAfee, Emerson R (6 August 2005). "Re: Greetings!".
1210:"The Milwaukee Sentinel – Google News Archive Search"
1282:"The Milwaukee Journal – Google News Archive Search"
1327:"Combat Evaluation Group Regulation (CEVGR) 50–6".
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405:Simulators: AN/MPQ-T3 (AAA), AN/MPS-T1, AN/MST-T1,
1239:. United States Army. December 1960. p. 18.
768:Historical Summary: Radar Bomb Scoring, 1945–1983
543:Tone Break: The 1st Combat Evaluation Group Story
140:in 1947, in Phoenix in 1952, and Guam in 1954.
1562:Cold War military history of the United States
1393:"Ashland group awarded Combat Skyspot trophy"
128:(Det B), and dets were later "established at
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676:johnd584 (22 January 2002). "Message 3202".
180:in Korea at "Tactical Air Direction Posts" (
1228:"Chapter 3: Radar Course Directing Central"
1118:. 7bwb-36assn.org. Retrieved on 2013-09-18.
1010:. Mobileradar.org. Retrieved on 2013-09-18.
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364:Belle Fourche Electronic Scoring Site
283:train had been used in 1961 near the
156:review of SAC in the Spring of 1948 (
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1453:"Radar Bomb Scoring: RBS Operations"
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1271:. Det6.com. Retrieved on 2013-09-18.
1042:from the original on 16 October 2012
956:"Radar Bomb Scoring: RBS Operations"
932:from the original on 4 December 2021
916:Herring, G. B. (Jr.) (19 May 1966).
897:from the original on 4 December 2021
867:from the original on 4 December 2021
837:from the original on 16 October 2012
578:from the original on 25 October 2012
374:remains "Belle Fourche Bomb Plot").
16:Air force trainee bomb accuracy test
1508:Last two T-38s get avionics upgrade
399:, AN/TPS-43, AN/TSQ-35, AN/TSQ-81,
188:.) In 1955, RBS bomb runs for the
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80:Automatic Tracking Radar Specialist
1433:. Spokane, Washington. 29 May 1993
698:MacDonald, Ray (4 December 2004).
572:Texas State Historical Association
197:, Kansas City, and St. Louis. The
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69:Strategic Range Training Complexes
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1029:"3903rd Radar Bomb Scoring Group"
824:"3903rd Radar Bomb Scoring Group"
71:(e.g., from Detachment 1 at the "
36:drops near radar stations of the
954:Alexander, Sigmund (July 2005).
709:from the original on 5 July 2015
277:10th Radar Bomb Scoring Squadron
186:11th Radar Bomb Scoring Squadron
1531:"Range Planning and Operations"
771:(MobileRadar.org transcription)
285:Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant
265:Maitland/Lake Park in Milwaukee
554:MUTES ... new threat simulator
411:Jammers: AN/MLQ-T4, AN/TLQ-11
336:Wilder Radar Bomb Scoring Site
107:West Texas Bombardier Triangle
51:units. USAF RBS used various
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443:Flight Information Handbook
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308:1st Combat Evaluation Group
28:operation used to evaluate
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1027:Roush, Dick (5 May 1001).
725:McAfee, Emerson R. "tbd".
356:United States Marine Corps
346:Post-Cold War bomb scoring
326:developed for Vietnam War
136:." USAF RBS units were at
467:: CS1 maint: unfit URL (
261:Chicago-Gary Defense Area
249:Course Directing Centrals
220:before shut ... down".
1378:22 February 2014 at the
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964:The Stratojet Newsletter
568:"Midland Army Air Field"
368:Military Operations Area
302:On 1 August 1961, SAC's
297:Naval Air Station Fallon
231:, England, moved to the
158:SAC's commanding general
126:Fort Worth Army Airfield
1267:28 January 2012 at the
1095:3 February 2016 at the
1065:"The Tadpoles of Korea"
510:The RBS Express SFP1324
383:Bomb Scoring Centrals:
269:Radar Bomb Scoring Unit
178:ground directed bombing
164:'s "entire command" on
115:Mediterranean Theatre's
111:ground-directed bombing
26:aviation ground support
1114:6 October 2012 at the
338:closed after the 1993
267:was RBSing. Four Navy
1572:Strategic Air Command
1348:The Milwaukee Journal
705:. Yahoo 1CEVG group.
666:] to Blackstone (
144:Strategic Air Command
45:Strategic Air Command
1430:The Spokesman-Review
1305:Nevada State Journal
1006:26 June 2012 at the
1262:Contact Information
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926:Laurel, Mississippi
766:(9 November 1983).
703:(newsgroup posting)
360:Yuma Proving Ground
289:Hawthorne Bomb Plot
273:Spokane, Washington
243:Army & Navy RBS
1567:Electronic warfare
1373:Bayshore Bomb Plot
1308:. 14 December 1961
1169:on 16 January 2019
922:Laurel Leader Call
808:has generic name (
649:on 4 December 2021
566:Colwell, James L.
539:"Part 1- Unedited"
487:Air Combat Command
422:Ironwood, Michigan
174:Fort George Wright
65:electronic warfare
38:United States Navy
22:Radar Bomb Scoring
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833:. KoreanWar.org.
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