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Royal Engineers A.F.C.

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behind" and "Weir now had a splendid run for Scotland into the heart of his opponents' territory". Although the Scottish team are acknowledged to have worked better together during the first half, this contemporary account acknowledges that in the second half England played similarly: "During the first half of the game the English team did not work so well together, but in the second half they left nothing to be desired in this respect." The Scotsman concludes that the difference in styles in the first half is the advantage the Queens' Park players had "through knowing each others' play" as all came from the same club. Unlike the 1872 Glasgow international, the contemporary evidence above shows that the Engineers' team playing style benefited their team play by winning games. Similarly, the 5 March 1872 match between Wanderers and Queens Park contains no evidence of ball passing.
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Contemporary match reports confirm that passing was a regular feature of the Engineers' style. An 1869 report says they "worked well together" and "had learned the secret of football success – backing up"; whereas their defeated opponents had "a painful want of cooperation". In February 1871 against
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The early accounts all confirm that the Engineers were the first club to play a passing game of cooperation and organisation with both their forwards and their defence. Although they could also play rough – as would be expected for an army team – The Engineers are the first side to be considered to
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and Jackson and so well did these three play in concert... they succeeded in defying the... RE forwards". What is most notable about this report is that it confirms that the Royal Engineers "played beautifully together" That the engineers were the first side to break the trend of dribbling is shown
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makes no mention of passing or combination by the Scottish team and specifically describes the Scottish attacks in terms of dribbling: "The Scotch now came away with a great rush, Leckie and others dribbling the ball so smartly that the English lines were closely besieged and the ball was soon
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of football. In a match of March 1871 against Wanderers their victory was due to "irreproachable organisation" and in particular that both their attacks and their backing up were both "so well organised" In November 1871 similar passing tactics are described in a contemporary account of a game
386:, however, soon seized his opportunity, and by a brilliant run down the left wing turned the ball judiciously to Currie, who as judiciously sent it flying through the strangers' goal in first rate style" Later in the match it is reported that "Lieut G Barker, turning the ball to 41: 1551: 1314: 333:" was first used by the Royal Engineers A.F.C. in the early 1870s. Wall states that the "Sappers moved in unison" and showed the "advantages of combination over the old style of individualism". 261:, where teammates passed the ball to each other rather than kicking ahead and charging after the ball. With the rise of professional teams, in 1888 the Engineers joined a newly formed 1521: 648:
REAFC have a serving veterans team that play in exhibition type games. Recently the "Vets" have played games against the House of parliament and invited to some prestigious events.
514:, again losing to the Wanderers. The Engineers continued to compete until the introduction of qualifying rounds in 1888–89, but with ever diminishing returns; in the first round in 393:
There is evidence that opponents sometimes adjusted their playing style to counteract the organisation and passing of the Engineers. For example, in February 1872 against
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By early 1868, a contemporary match report states "For the R.E.s Lieuts Campbell, Johnson and Chambers attracted especial attention by their clever play"
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starting in 1888. In the early years, the Engineers was one of several amateur teams who could defeat the professionals in challenge matches.
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play the football "beautifully". All of these developments occurred before and independent of the 1872 match between England and Scotland.
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in a contemporary account of their victory against Crystal Palace in early 1872. This said that: "very little dribbling was displayed"
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The following six Royal Engineers players played for England. The number of caps gained while playing for club is in brackets.
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Another contemporary match report clearly shows that by 1870, ball passing was a feature of the Engineers style: "
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in 1873. Wall's memoirs state that this tour introduced the combination game to Sheffield and Nottingham. In
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in 1875 and being Cup finalists in three of the first four seasons. The Engineers were pioneers of the
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regimental teams organised and competed in local competitions. In 1902–03 the Engineers won the
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The evidence above contains detailed descriptions of passing that are lacking in reports of the
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In 2014, Keith Stubbs founded the REAFC Ladies squad which runs in line with the male squad.
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who planted it between the posts" "Turning" the ball clearly points to the short pass.
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Won 1981, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002; Runner-up 1983, 1988
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against the Wanderers in which two goals were scored through tactical passing: "
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of Saturday 12 March 1870, see account of international match of 5 March 1870
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The club has worn scarlet and blue hoops since its foundation in 1863.
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The Royal Engineers were the first football team to go on a tour, to
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the Engineers won the FA Cup, considered their greatest triumph. In
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The Engineers used their team playing style with effect against the
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Various regiments and battalions within the RE Corps have won the
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on 16 March 1872, to regular rivals Wanderers. They also lost the
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during the early 1900s the Royal Engineers, together with other
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It was not only in England that the Engineers helped pioneer
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The club was founded in 1863, under the leadership of Major
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On 7 November 2012, the Royal Engineers played against the
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Former Munster Senior League (association football) clubs
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Highland Light Infantry Chroncicle (Jan 1908-Oct1910)
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For example, in a lengthy account the 235:Royal Engineers Association Football Club 51:Royal Engineers Association Football Club 1537:Association football in the British Army 1165: 1163: 1161: 1159: 903: 1508:When the Sappers won the FA Cup (1875) 1186:"Royal Engineers – Football – History" 1449:"Club Affiliations – Royal Engineers" 1317:from the original on 10 November 2017 984:The Encyclopaedia of British Football 7: 1474:"Scotland players – Royal Engineers" 1380:from the original on 18 October 2020 1351:History Section - Welfare and Sports 1228:When the Sappers won the FA Cup 1875 150: 27:Association football club in England 1249:Uxbridge & West Drayton Gazette 1557:Military football clubs in England 1247:"Great Marlow v Royal Engineers". 25: 1418:. London: Lillywhite. p. 79. 1115:, 18 November 1871, issue 2, 681 205: 198: 191: 184: 177: 170: 163: 156: 149: 39: 1480:from the original on 2011-12-15 1455:from the original on 2012-04-02 1192:from the original on 2006-01-03 960:50 Years of Football, 1884-1934 922:from the original on 2022-05-30 761:Won 1903; Runners-up 1904, 1905 1542:1863 establishments in England 1370:"First FA Cup final recreated" 1174:Football Club History Database 1136:, 17 February 1872, issue 2694 1036:, 25 February 1871, issue 2643 814:40 Army Engineer Support Group 805:Won 1980; Runner-up 1991, 1993 1: 1151:London and Sporting Chronicle 1134:London and Sporting Chronicle 1113:London and Sporting Chronicle 1096:, 18 March 1871, issue 2, 646 1094:London and Sporting Chronicle 1066:London and Sporting Chronicle 1050:London and Sporting Chronicle 1034:London and Sporting Chronicle 1018:London and Sporting Chronicle 958:Wall, Sir Frederick (2005). 71:; 161 years ago 1264:Sheffield Evening Telegraph 1052:, 21 March 1868, Issue 2396 986:, Routledge, United Kingdom 583:Professionalism arrived in 411:the first-ever FA Cup Final 325:, who was the secretary of 1573: 536:1872 Glasgow international 87:Number one ground, Chatham 1527:Football clubs in England 1414:Lillywhite, John (1868). 1284:- 2 December 1872, page 6 1234:October 23, 2009, at the 1212:Sheffield Daily Telegraph 1068:, 5 November 1870,issue 2 877:The following played for 866:Cecil Wingfield-Stratford 596:Army Football Association 518:, the club lost 10–1 at 263:Army Football Association 227: 141: 137: 120:Army Football Association 38: 962:. 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Index

Royal Engineers AFC

Army Football Association
Club website
Home colours
association football
Corps of Royal Engineers
British Army
Chatham, Kent
FA Cup
combination game
Army Football Association

Merriman
Marindin
Addison
Mitchell
Renny-Tailyour
Creswell
Goodwyn
Rich
Francis Marindin
No Names Club
Frederick Wall
The Football Association
combination game
Crystal Palace
Lieut. Mitchell
Lieut. Rich
Lieut. Creswell

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