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Virtue is the proper attunement of the soul, and vice the lack of such an attunement. But if the soul itself is an attunement, then virtue and vice would be attunements of an attunement. But an attunement can't participate in non-attunement. So if a soul is a perfect attunement, it could not have
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The soul is the ruling principle of the body. But attunement is governed by the material of the musical instrument. By analogy, that would make the body the ruler of the soul.
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by Plato, so the analogy presented in it by the character Simmias, although summarized here, need not reflect the views of the historical Simmias.
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If the soul would be a tune, and bodies can be tuned differently, there would be more or lesser souls - which is not possible.
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When the harp is destroyed the tune which is ethereal, invisible and divine is also destroyed.
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attributed to Socrates' followers. Two short works are also attributed to him in the
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mentions Simmias as the author of 23 brief dialogues, now lost, including
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includes him in the inner circle of Socrates' followers. He appears in
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as a main discussion partner of Socrates alongside Cebes, as well as
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Socrates attacks Simmias's Analogy with four different arguments:
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The People of Plato: A Prosopography of Plato and Other Socratics
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letter from Xenophon to Simmias and Cebes is included in the
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Simmias is one of Socrates' interlocutors in Plato's
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In addition to the references in Plato and Xenophon,
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Index

Thebes
School
Socratic
Thebes
Ancient Greek
Greek
Socrates
Cebes
Memorabilia
Xenophon
Plato
Phaedo
Crito
Phaedrus
Epistle
XIII
Diogenes Laërtius
Plutarch
Moralia
pseudepigraphic
Cynic epistles
Greek Anthology
Sophocles
dialogue
soul
anamnesis
List of speakers in Plato's dialogues


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