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or Royal Navy. The Indefatigable was divided into four divisions; Drake, Raleigh, Rodney and Hood, with approximately thirty boys to each division. The school had three types of students, fee paying, orphans, and council subsidized boys. Up until the mid-1960s, positions were readily available in the British Merchant fleet and Royal Navy for graduating students. However, as the British Merchant Navy declined from a high of 3,112 British registered ships in 1957, to a low of 368 registered ships in 2001, positions at sea for the boys became difficult to find, and the school had to change from a sea-training school to a regular academic public school in an effort to attract more students.
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merged with the Lancashire National Sea Training Home for boys and renamed The Indefatigable and National Sea Training School for boys. Although this was the official name the school was always known as the Indefatigable. Boys entered at aged fourteen, graduating at age sixteen to either the Merchant
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In 1863 captain John Clint, a Liverpool shipowner, proposed the idea that a sea training school should be established for the orphans and sons of Liverpool seamen. Clint had helped found the Liverpool Shipowners' Association in 1839, the Pilots' Commission, the Dock and Harbour Company, the Liverpool
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In 1989 new classrooms and sports facilities were built and the age of entry was lowered to the age of 11. However, the numbers continued to fall to around 120 in 1994/5 with an estimated 100 for 1996. The school could not carry on with these numbers, and at the end of term in 1995 the school was
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had no recognized training schools for boys entering the service. Education consisted of boys about 15 years old going to sea "to be led, guided, bullied and socialized into the culture of the sea". There was no distinction between training for AB, and the training of future masters. Through
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The school was purchased by the Ministry of Defence in 1996 and renamed The Joint Service Mountain Training Centre Indefatigable. A Β£4 million refurbishment began in July 1998 and the first students arrived in April 1999. The Nuffield Trust partly funded the cost of the refurbishment.
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experience it was possible to rise to the position of Master without any formal training. Beginning in the mid- nineteenth century various forms of navigational and seamanship schools were created to remedy the problem
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In 1983, the Indefatigable Old Boys Association was created and an annual reunion is held at the school each year where the Ministry of Defence gives ex-students access to the old school.
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There is a reference in the AGM minutes of 1934 regarding the newly formed Old Boys Association. Mr.A.W. Bibby, Patron, and Mr. Harold Bibby, President.
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towers above the school. Admiral Paget also had the statue of Lord Nelson erected on the banks of the Menai Strait in 1877 as an aid to navigation.
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remained off Rock Ferry until 5 January 1914, and was then towed to the West Float at Birkenhead and sold for scrap on 26 March. By then, the
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Temporary accommodation was initially found at a disused holiday camp at Clwydd Newydd, Ruthin, North Wales, before moving to
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Sailors' Home, the Northern Hospital, but most importantly Clint had been the prime mover in establishing HMS
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Captain MacDonald and Mr. George Kendall. Supervised the re-fit of HMS Indefatigable to the TS Indefatigable.
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a land-based school in the future and the ship was sold for scrap. Later in 1941 the admiralty re-purchased
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remained on the Mersey until 1941, when it was decided that the intense German bombing of Liverpool during
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into a training ship, and this became the beginning of a long relationship between the Bibby family and TS
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did so on 28 August 1865, with 35 being admitted in the first year. By 1868, 148 boys were on board.
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Commander R.A. Jefferies 1936–1939. Called-up for active duty at the beginning of WWII in 1939.
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Captain John Groome appointed the first captain of TS Indefatigable in 1865–1881
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Swimming bath on the training ship "Indefatigable" at Liverpool. Wood engraving.
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committee for Β£15,000. Mr. Frank Bibby gave the committee the money to buy the
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between Gwynedd and Anglesey in 1944. Plas Llanfair was once home to Admiral
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Old boys Pat Moran and Bill Smith discussing the history of the Indefatigable
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was a British training school opened in 1865 for boys intending to join the
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Training Ship Indefatigable – TS Indefatigable events and eventual closure
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and moored off Rock Ferry on 15 January 1914, at which time the old
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made it too dangerous to remain anchored on the river Mersey. HMS
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=138-387i
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as unfit for use, and so in 1913 the Admiralty agreed to sell
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to prepare boys for life at sea as a member of the deck crew.
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committee. Mr. James Bibby contributed Β£5,000 to convert HMS
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s figurehead of William IV was transferred to the new ship.
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In 1912 the Inspector of Training Ships condemned the
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The Indefatigable 150th Celebration - June 14th 2014
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HMS Indefatigable
Royal Navy
British Merchant Navy
British Merchant Navy

Liverpool
HMS Conway
Sloyne
Rock Ferry
River Mersey
HMS Phaeton
World War II
Anglesey

Plas Llanfair
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
Menai Strait
Lord Clarence Paget
1st Marquess of Anglesey
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