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Periculum due to the interference of Napoléon Bonaparte." Both examples are highly inaccurate. The election of 1417 was unique, in that it was authorized by a Council which was retroactively deemed to be Ecumenical and legitimate. In the election of 1417, it was not just Ubi Periculum which was suspended, but also (and more importantly, subsequent papal legislation which had long since rendered Ubi Periculum obsolete. In 1799, when Pius VI died, Napoleon was in Egypt and had been there for months; when he returned, he started a revolution in Paris that overthrew the Directory. He was not involved in suspending any papal constitutions. Trollope, an English protestant with a far from neutral view of the Papacy, and sometimes a flippant attitude, and who relied on unreliable sources, is not a good authority. The whole effort to provide a "Legacy" is strained.
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The lead mentions that this was the last papal election which did not take the form of a conclave. It would be best if you elaborate in the body of the article. I'd recommend adding a paragrap providing details on the evolution of papal elections into conclave form; it would be particularly useful if
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Oh sorry I completely forgot about this. I can remove the bulletpoints, I guess, but I think the other part of your comment is a double edged sword. If I move it to the body, suddenly there's something in the article which isn't summarized in the lead; so either I make the article repetitive, delete
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