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1304:"During the season the JTWC issued warnings on any tropical cyclone that was located between 160°E and 180° while the NPMOC issued warnings for tropical cyclones forming between 180° and the American coast." American cost? That was thousands of miles away? Change it to "South American" coast (assuming that's what you meant).
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While I dont mind including it as an other system and it would work better than giving it a full section, we have to remember that Violet was in the sweet spot where the FMS/BoM/MetService would share the WMO authority for TC's because of
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1510:, does FMS mentions Violet as part of the season in their Best Track? If yes, then they should be included, otherwise it should not. Maybe they operationally considered it part of the season, but chaged their minds when analysing the data afterwards. It woudn't be the first case of such.
1585:, oh yeah, I forgot about MetService. Do they have BTs or other data on Violet on their AoR? If they do, then yes, it's an official system for this basin and should be fully included here. I don't think that being brief is a problem, like the aforementioned Gabrielle, or
1611:- its been a busy couple of days in my life away from Wiki. I guess when you put it like that our hands are tied, since both BoM/Wellington show that it crossed 160.0E. Not sure on gving it a full section per WP:Weight but thats a discussion for another day.
1399:"During the next day, as the depression moved to the southeast it gradually developed further, before the NPMOC designated the depression as Tropical Cyclone 05P with winds equivalent to a tropical depression." break this sentence up as it is very long
1380:"As Vania moved out of the Vanuatuan archipelago, the system moved towards the south before re-curving and moving towards the northwest." Wikilink the Vanuatuan archipelago sicne I nor most readers do not know where that is.
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