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The german link should really be "Kontinuität (Medien)", not "Anschluss (Film)", for last one is only the movie/film-cutting-technique-continuity and not the narrative fictional stuff. I tried linking from the german and the english article, but got that "link is already used by
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It could be a nice addition, if you can find a good source. It should be too detailed though, to avoid giving undo weight to comics and/or Marvel in a topic with much broader reach. 20:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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