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Cleaned this article up a bit. Biq question: What pages link here? I see Celtic Fusion and The Pogues do. Perhaps this page is ultimately unnecessary, or should forward to Celtic Fusion? If we could add more than this one paragraph, I could see the merit of keeping it. I'm not sure I have much to say
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I can't believe what I read. Flatfoot 56 is not a
Scottish band. The members are from Chicago. The statement that the members of these bands do not have Celtic ancestry is total BS too. Are you saying the Dropkick Murphys have no Irish Americans in it as well as the other bands? I guess this article
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I agree that it should have some, and it does name a few examples. A huge list of bands, especially one which includes "lesser-known" bands is simply an invitation to add every single band known to man into this article, which is unencyclopedic and unhelpful. Perhaps creating
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I believe that's up to us to decide. I'm considering dragging up my copies of The Lost Decade, A Drink with Shane MacGowan, or any interviews with the likes of
Flogging Molly on their influences, the genre, etc. It really seems to me that Celtic punk was less a genre proper and more something that
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I edited out a reference to ska a few months ago and now there's another one. How is this relevant? What "traditional instrumentation" does ska feature, and whose tradition is it? How is that tradition related to celtic punk? I was under the impression that most of ska's instrumentation was lifted
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Absolutely true, it is ineeed not a sign of a trend, or the development of a scene, but it could be pointed out that it is the very first example of its kind of celtic punk (mixed with the traditional celtic musik originating from, and in some ways specific for, Brittany). I agree with you that
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Ska is a mixture of american jazz with more traditional calypso rhythms and instrumentation. It often makes use of traditional african and indian folk instruments. I mentioned it, along with Gypsy punk, in order to demonstrate the relationship between celtic punk and other types of folk punk,
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American bands using Irish or Scottish music as an influence. As to issue of Celtic ancestry, it is in a separate sentence, some bands may be completely made up of members with Celtic
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Same with the reference to "Gypsy Punk." I think it would be better to either link to folk rock, folk punk, etc and let it play out from there unless there are direct connections to be made (e.g., the majority of gypsy punk bands being directly inspired by celtic punk bands).
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If you provide reliable references to back up your claims, then they won't be deleted. Also, just because one band plays a certain style of music, it doesn't mean there's a trend developing. There would have to be several bands to make it some kind of movement or
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It didn't seem right to have that link in the list, considering all of the other bands have their own pages, and this one was external. I noticed the shite-n-onions was too, but I only took the band on out. here it is:
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i mis alot of Bands at folk punk like the cropdusters ,the wiskey prists (from durham),the ukrainians, les negresses vertes,los fabulosos cadillacs,celtas cortas,roarig jack(from australia)
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This article is labeled a stub. What more do we want to see? I would be tempted to add a more detailed history, but I don't get the impression that celtic punk's history has been continuous.
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live and though I wasnt exactly enamorated with them they definantly qualified as 'Celtic punk.' We should attempt to increase the visibility of this page and see where it goes.
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