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international statistic organisations such as Eurostat. It is only Knowledge that currently asserts otherwise, without a source to back it up. I do agree however that there is 2 different entities here. The issue of contention is that they have been named wrongly. The two entities (that incidently are verifiable unlike the current set up) are (1) Bradford(City of Bradford), and (2) ONS defined "Bradford urban-subdivision"/Bradford(settlement). And i do apologise for getting involved in this muddle again but it is hard to sit back and see minority POV ("tradeoffs") take precedence over core policies as imo it blackens the integrity of wikipedia (and isnt actually allowed either) :-(
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one for those who don't have a religion. It is arbitrary and might not always work, as you seem to think is the case here, but it's so that the table doesn't get ridiculously long. The group who declined to state their religion should not be in the table because it doesn't tell the reader anything about the religion of the population; it's just a statement by those filling in the census that they think the state should mind their own business about religion. Those with no religion are at the bottom because the table is about the religious make up of the district and while the group is significant by its size and obviously needs to be mentioned, it's not a religion.
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english language you do need a "the" infornt. Hope that helps with the confusion. With regards to a case for Carlisle meaning a city, I think you would have a hard case here, as there isnt sufficient substantial evidence to assert that "carlisle" most commonly means the city. That said, you would have an easy case for Bradford, given that it is impossible to find a single source that backs the current lead "Bradford lies at the heart of City of Bradford", let alone a reiable source from ONS, Census.gov.uk, or Statistics.gov.uk, whilst conversley, all .gov.uk sites assert that "Bradford is a city"
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might be a better approach would be to explain in prose (the table is there for ease of comparison and could be dispensed with completely if prose is preferred). That way, it could be explained that the proportion of Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and Sikhs in the City of Carlisle is similar to that for the county of Cumbria, but all below the national average.
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I think the problem inherent with the table is that for it to be a manageable size (ie: not to create masses of white space) it needs to exclude someone; in this instance, that gives the appearance of bias as the proportion of Muslims is a similar size to about three other religions in the city. What
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the actual second largest minority: "no religion"? Why are other religions aside from Islam (which have similar representation in Carlisle) not included in the table? Frankly, presenting this data in this particular way makes it look like someone is pushing an agenda... Please include the figures for
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The list of civil parishes is incorrect, as it assumes that a parish council equates to a single civil parish. There are, in reality, 36 civil parishes in the city, but only 34 parish councils or parish meetings. The discrepancy is caused by a number of civil parishes sharing common/joint/grouped
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Does anybody have a source about the geography of the modern City of Carlisle? I have a couple for the ancient city, but I want to be able to source the fact that most of the district is composed of a rural landscape. Once it's filled out, I'm thinking of adding some images of this rural element of
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You mean long-standing arrangements agreed upon before you or I joined the site? I'd like you to retract your accusation of minority POV. That's not helpful. Whilst look at an Ordnance Survey map - you'll see no settlement called "Bradford ONS urban area" or any such nonsense - that's a statistical
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Hi Blacklans. I think we need some clarification here. There is a difference between the official title "City of Carlisle", which indeed does not have "the" at the front. However in a normal english sentence, City of Carlisle needs to be preceeded with a "the". The confusion lies with the fact that
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Now you've hopefully read that, I'll explain why I've reverted your edit. In the City of Carlisle, Islam is the second largest religion, admittedly not by much though. The table here follows the same format as other well developed articles on districts, with a row for the largest two religions and
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I'm sorry, but if you choose not to participate in the discussion (wikibreak or not) that is your problem. I also note that you were, in fact, editing for much of this time. If you are not prepared to engage properly, citing WP:BRD to justify your actions is a misuse of policy. I shouldn't have to
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proper, which can then begin "Carlisle is a city and non-metropolitan district..." There is no evidence whatsoever that there remains today a settlement called Carlisle, with borders identical to those of the city and municipal borough abolished 35 years ago, as distinct from the present enlarged
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Thank you for explaining what you see as the conventional way of listing these things. I don't agree with the convention, since I think that population groups should be listed in order of size, but... fair enough. Regarding the "agenda", I got the distinct impression from reading the demographics
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with the said placename, the "the" that preceeds it starts with a capital T, as in The City of Carlisle. This doesnt mean the "The" is part of the official name, and proof of this is that this very article is titled "City of Carlisle" not "the City of Carlisle", but in sentences, to adhere to the
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Hmm. My instinct is to go with the Carlisle.gov.uk source as it's more up to date and maybe something changed since the 2008 local elections other than the by-elections. I'm not certain though. In this case I'd like to put the question to the local wikiproject but as there isn't one I'm not sure
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I belive the correct form of introduction is simply "City of Carlisle" and not "The City of Carlisle". We don't say "The South Lakeland District" when referring to that local government area, so we shouldn't do so here. Any thoughts on this? I've set the article to omit the "The" for the moment.
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As a non-metropolitan district, with city status, I believe the arguments for "merging" the articles are particularly strong here. The city was not restricted to the area of the former county borough by the appointment of charter trustees, as, for example, was (initially) the case in Rochester;
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at Leeds, where a city's boundaries have been enlarged, post LGA72, the settlement article should discuss the whole area; from my perspective, you seem to want to arbitrarily preserve the boundaries as they existed immediately prior to 1974 in aspic, something of a minority view and one not
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You are incorrect there. It is "the ONS Bradford urban-subdivision" that lies at the heart of City of Bradford. The word "Bradford" *is* "city of bradford" according to ONS, the government, other encyclopedia, 99% of google hits, newspapers, media, other internet sources, and ONS affiliated
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Not keen on that at all. This disrupts the whole system in the United Kingdom. There is a settlement called Carlisle and there is a district called the City of Carlilse, any map verifies this (which I'll source) (!). But of course, the gripe isn't about that....
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I've undone it. It makes no sense and does not follow standard English - a requirement of editorial writing. It is THE city of carlise, like THE city of Manchester or THE United States of America or THE United Kingdom. Respectfully, this is pretty basic stuff.
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equally absent religious group in Cumbria). Now, assuming good faith, this bias is almost certainly unintentional, but casually reading these sections its the message I got loud and clear (and I ain't even a Muslim!). Perhaps you could have a look at it?
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What evidence is this based on? So its now, City of London and City of Manchester, no the? Come on, please. A local government area is a place - they are human constructs like settlements, states, countries, cities.
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The City Council has 52 Councillors, comprising 23 Labour Councillors, 21 Conservative Councillors, 7 Liberal Democrat Councillors and one Independent Councillor. Each council member serves one of 22 wards of the
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My inclination is to trust that CoC know how many councillors they have. The information in the article should be updated from there; and referenced. The ultimate criteria on WP is verifiability -
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and most other local government area articles where it is not used as a means of introduction. Having it here strongly implies "The City", when that is not what's meant. I found this in Knowledge
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are dealt with. Having said that, there may be differences in English useage depending on where in the United Kingdom you are from. For example, in the south it is not uncommon to refer to
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I disagree. We are talking about a local government area and not a place as such. As I noted, other local government areas aren't prefixed with "The", so why should this one be.
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rather the (shadow) district council petitioned for borough status becoming the City of Carlisle on 1 April 1974. Prior to then, of course, the area discussed in the article at
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I am happy to discuss this, although in my experience those insinuating that others have agendas are often trying to disguise their own. I am the one who wrote the
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once more (sorry). The referenced by-elections indicate 'no change' - as written, so there must have been another. Uncontested seats? Maybe I should move there ...
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The Electoral Commission : Document Summary : Carlisle Final Recommendations : Page 31 : Draft Recommendations for Carlisle : 10 : Great Corby and Geltsdale Ward
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I'm not insensitive to the confusion and even grievances against the arrangements for places with city status, but it is the reality of the situation.
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Hi Razorlax. I'm not sure that "the" is required in sentences such as the one commencing this article. It reads perfectly well without it. Consider
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comprised the City of Carlisle. Unless you can provide a reliable source to the contrary, I propose to effect the changes I have outlined above.
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I agree that the definite article is warranted; people always call it "the City of Carlisle" (or "Carlisle") instead of just "City of Carlisle".
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explains that two seats were left vacant at the 2008 elections, so both sources are correct and the by-elections must have filled the seats.
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gives 21/21 in 2008; with the total adding to 50 councillors. There were two by-elections in 2009, returning the incumbent party. On
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Moving forward, can you please provide a reliable source to indicate that Carlisle means something other than the City of Carlisle?
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parish councils. In addition, a couple of civil parishes are officially named other than on the list. These are as follows :-
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sections (which religion is bracketed under), but doesn't appear biased. I assume you're referring to the
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No because that's about the council which administers the area, not the geographic location.
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are necessary to substantiate material; can you actually provide any, per my above request?
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I suggest that, in line with consensus achieved at Leeds, the article currently here at
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Agreed. Can we make efforts to restore the "The" please? Carlisle City Council is the
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that people feel aggrieved at the modern arrangement for local government.
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The problem is the oddities of the English language. It would be
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