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begins to fall and fall and fall vs USD,EUR and GBP, then eventually someone begins to think "whow how cheap gold has become" and it will be more and more expensive again, as people and investors buys again. That's the nature of gold. But has BTC and the other any similar kind of nature ? Doubt that.
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