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I strongly disagree with the automatic redirection of 'upbeat' to 'anacrusis'. No sane musician is going to say 'anacrusis' if they mean upbeat. Also, upbeat has a specific musical meaning or meanings, which are not quite the same as 'anacrusis' in poetic rhythm. For example in conducting, upbeat is
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I completely agree with the redirection to the term "anacrusis." Anacrusis is defined by the Oxford Dictionary of Music as "Unstressed syllable at the beginning of a line of poetry or an unstressed note or group of notes at the beginning of a musical phrase." This by definition links the literary
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The poem is not (whatever the source may say) in "trochaic tetrameter". The lines quoted (except the last) have seven syllables. Trochaic tetrameter requires eight-syllable lines: "Tyger, tyger, burning bright-o / In the forest of the night-o". If any named meter is intended, I expect it is iambic
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concept to the musical concept, which given the strong historical connection between spoken text to chant to plainsong, etc. The term "anacrusis" is common amongst music scholars, and should not be relegated to the term "upbeat" when its roots are much deeper and more profound.
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between upbeat and anacrusis but it is vital to keep them distinct. Otherwise we may get a big muddle, exemplified by the confusion over intakes of breath and baseball pitchers. The baseball analogy is also confusing in itself.
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is also misleading, because an anacrusis is part of the score. An instrumentalist would equally well take a breath before beginning a piece with an "explicit" anacrusis.
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Ultimately it seems to add little insight to the question as to why a tentative, metrically defective foot or measure can function as an effective introduction.
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is misleading, because anacrusis is a metrical concept based on the idea of a "beat" or "accent"; a pitcher's windup is a tensioning, not a thrust.
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not a note or an intake of breath but (a gesture indicating) the last beat in a bar - whether or not anything audible happens there. There may be an
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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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Also note anacrusis has a distinct (linguistic) meaning in phonology/intonation studies.
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Does anyone have any sources to support either position?
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I would vote for reverting the addition in question.
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