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article related to that topic, without providing any precedent or clear breach of policy besides your feelings that anyone associated with
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people buy stocks, any stocks as most people do so through broad based mutual funds. This is not inherently wrong, infact it would be unreasonable to insist that anyone writing about someone involved in the stock market to have no interest in the success of the market...Just as it is unreasonable to invalidate a source on a topic peripheral to bitcoin because they have an interest in the success of bitcoin. Actually these sources exist to talk about and promote cryptocurrencies, of which
Bitcoin is only one. Just like Sports Illustrated exists to talk about and promote sports, climbing magazine exists to talk about and promote climbing, bloomberg exists to talk about and promote wallstreet investments. And guess what, lots of people involved in those publications have some kind of financial interest in their topic growing. Now if this was an article about The Bitcoin Foundation using a source from the Bitcoin Foundations blog would not be appropriate as it would be promotional material that they controlled.
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bitcoin, I care about REPUTABILITY , of which needs to be PROVEN, and HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. I cannot prove that they are NOT REPUTABLE, this is a negative claim and proving a negative is close to impossible for most things, and unless they've done something that's largely illegal or not reputable then it would be impossible to prove that any website is not reputable. You've used this as a way to argue past the policies on wikipedia, as if I can't prove they aren't reputable, they must be reputable. I mean, there are so many ways in which this argument makes me want to smash my own head open against a wall, but the level of rhetoric is probably the worst. You've made all of these false comparisons, attacked my neutrality (for who knows whatever reason) and then declared yourself the "winner". I mean, this is why no one wants to edit this fucking site, too many people invested in the subjects who just don't know how to reason properly infest every god damn page.
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Antonopoulos here, we're talking about a self referential "bitcoin expert" site that has a stake in how bitcoin is viewed. I honestly don't think I can spell this out any better for you
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Andreas Antonopoulos than Popular Science Magazine is a promotional tool of Neil deGrasse Tyson. Furthermore, is Popular Science Magazine an invalid source on any science related topic simply because they promote science? Your argument is entirely invalid. And the fact that these are publications with editorial control means that they are inherently not self-published. Unless you can show otherwise, Andreas Antonopoulos has no control over the content of any of these publications and thus their writing about him is not "self advertisement".
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Businessweek is a source on Jim Cramers wiki and I don't think anyone would think its invalid because of this absurd argument. Furthermore, underlying your various rationales to get these sources removed seems to be a prejudice against anyone associated with bitcoin that they're only motivation is financial gain, which is simply not true. Its like argueing the scientific journal 'Nature' is an invalid source because all their writers are just conspiring to promote the scientific method so that they can get more money for research grants.
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So, I realise that this argument is already over because one of the people was first to use bold font, and that always means that the person using it is indisputably right and The Winner. But ... I think the 'article' reads like nothing more than a job application from a wannabe lobbyist. One of the
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