Talk:Airplane - Knowledge

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math skills ought to be able to figure it out from the statement "they are numbered starting from the left to the right, from 1 and up". Do we really need a list to tell that that means that No. 1 is the left and No.3 is the inner right? The name is also not great; what does "Aircraft engine position number" actually mean? Are they in fact "position numbers"? I think someone has been over-enthusiastic is all. I appreciate the effort (and I can kind of see the motivation; I used to have a hell of a time remembering whether "1" was on the left or the right. This article doesn't really do any harm, I'm just not sure it falls under the category of "article material", and there is little chance of most people ever finding it or using it. Also little chance of it ever being expanded into anything more interesting, unless someone can come up with interesting international variations and/or historical details to fill it out more. Here's one; a twin-tandem engine aircraft, like one of the old early 1930s British or French bomber designs, with two nacelles, each containing a tractor and a pusher prop: what is the numbering sequence? 1 and 2 for front and rear on the port, 3 and 4 for front and rear on the starboard? How were the engines of the

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altimeter calibration worldwide is hectopascals (hPa), except for North America and Japan where inches of mercury (inHg) are used. The altimeter is adjustable for local barometric pressure which must be set correctly to obtain accurate altitude readings, usually in either feet or meters. As the aircraft ascends, the capsules expand and the static pressure drops, causing the altimeter to indicate a higher altitude. The opposite effect occurs when descending. With the advancement in aviation and increased altitude ceiling, the altimeter dial had to be altered for use both at higher and lower altitudes. Hence when the needles were indicating lower altitudes i.e. the first 360-degree operation of the pointers was delineated by the appearance of a small window with oblique lines warning the pilot that he or she is nearer to the ground. This modification was introduced in the early sixties after the recurrence of air accidents caused by the confusion in the pilot's mind. At higher altitudes, the window will disappear.:3-3

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third use "aeroplane" as their preferred spelling. Stated another way, about 23% of English speakers use "aeroplane". This by itself doesn't suggest that North American usage should prevail in all articles. I further suggest that the country that established the technology described should get a nod. Accordingly, I suggest that nautical terms, e.g. "gibe" versus "gybe", should use British English, given Britain's sea-faring heritage. Here, North America should get the nod.

2927:, Yes, that needs to be fixed to add Adler. There's no prohibition on editing the article if you are French, so feel free to edit it if you wish. If you feel unsure about your level of English, you can add your proposed text here on the Talk page instead, and we can adjust it for proper English before moving it to the article. And finally, you may post your proposed addition here in French if that is easier for you, and I'll translate it. Just make sure to use 441: 420: 451: 4786:. That is likely to change within a few decades, but it hasn't yet. Also, you haven't established that anyone but you considers "airplane" to be childish. You have to at least make some effort at proving it a common view, and in more than one country, using reliable published sources.Given the evidence that above that "airplane" is gaining acceptance in Britain, I doubt it can be proven. Even then, you're probably wasting your time trying to do so. 4287:

as explained by the reference given, to shorten and smooth out the take-off run. Huffman agrees that their earlier experiments were without catapult, but does not call them "flights". The question revolves around what is a "flight". Santos' aircraft sustained flight, but in ground effect only. So, yes, it took off unaided but that's its only claim to fame, as explained by the reference given. I'm happy with the current text. Sincerely.

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preferences. 'Aircraft' is used in all forms of English, and its use here would not be controversial, as far as I can see. It would stop the no doubt endless debate about the matter. Is there some reason why 'Aircraft' would not be a suitable name for the article? The only thing I can think of is that the term can be singular or plural, but I don't rate that as a big issue.

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pressure in the aircraft's Pitot tube relative to the ambient static pressure. The indicated airspeed (IAS) must be corrected for nonstandard pressure and temperature in order to obtain the true airspeed (TAS). The instrument is color coded to indicate important airspeeds such as the stall speed, never-exceed airspeed, or safe flap operation speeds.:3-7 to 3-8

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has forgotten Adler, since he gave up after his third attent, and his influence on aviation seems to have been weak, bat design being a dead-end (though he did pioneer a very light steam engine). On top of that he had a very bad temper and was not very mundane. He did though invent a lot of other things and could have succeeded. (see

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lift devices do not control speed, they generate more lift at a given speed, if the high lift devices fail to deploy the approach speed is higher to compensate. Swept wing aircraft are made for high speed flight, straight wing aircraft are made for short takeoff and landing distances which result in a lower maximum speed.

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Airspeed indicator Main article: Airspeed indicator Airspeed indicator.svg The airspeed indicator shows the aircraft's speed relative to the surrounding air. Knots is the currently most used unit, but kilometers per hour is sometimes used instead. The airspeed indicator works by measuring the ram-air

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Looking at the demographics of the countries where the two terms are used, the US and Canada comprise approximately 360M people and the British Isles, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand comprise approximately 107M people—compared to those who use "airplane" as their preferred spelling, fewer than one

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Americans, thus was already American. Other language variants of English are allowed on Knowledge by the grace of Jimbo Wales. I dare say if Knowledge had been invented in Britain, British English would be mandatory, with no variation allowed whatsoever. They'd probably even enforce it on talk pages!

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An airplane, also known as an aeroplane (British English), is a powered, fixed-wing aircraft designed for flight in the Earth's atmosphere. It is distinguished from other types of aircraft by the presence of wings that generate lift due to the aircraft's forward motion and the engines that propel it

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the first to fly unassisted by a catapult. Smithsonian says, "Their 1903 flyer took off unaided although it used a launch track and a wheeled carriage instead of attached wheels and a runway," which does not say that it sustained flight in that configuration. The recognized flight used the catapult,

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The early powered flight section contains the line "was claimed to be the first airplane flight unassisted by catapult". There should be at least some sort of caveat here considering this is contradicted by numerous other sources, some linked in this same article. Maybe something like "was claimed,

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Vertical speed indicator Main article: Vertical speed indicator Vertical speed indicator.PNG The VSI (also sometimes called a variometer, or rate of climb indicator) senses changing air pressure, and displays that information to the pilot as a rate of climb or descent in feet per minute, meters per

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seems like something more appropriately included as part of the article on airplanes, not something to make a stand-alone article out of. It's not really "notable", and consists of nothing but a list of different layouts by number of engines, and how they are numbered, even though anyone with basic

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There are a few things in many paragraphs that are still factually incorrect, not all jet aircraft possess (or have) high cruise speeds and not all jet aircraft need high speeds for takeoff and landing when they have excellent high lift devices to attain lower takeoff and landing speeds, high high

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Main article: Altimeter 3-Pointer Altimeter.svg The altimeter shows the aircraft's altitude above sea-level by measuring the difference between the pressure in a stack of aneroid capsules inside the altimeter and the atmospheric pressure obtained through the static system. The most common unit for

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It seems that Alberto Santos-Dumont was not the first who rised an airplane in the air with his own motor, on 23 October 1906. Before him, on march 18, 1906, Traian Vuia did this with his airplane and traveled through the air 12 meters at 1 meter hight. And even did a second flight in August 1906,

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Regarding Adler, I think it would be fair to mention there is a debate to what he achieved really, since officially in France (as indicated in the official government link above mentioned) he is considered in his last flight having flown 300 meters, and a stele celebrates it. History out of France

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This sub-thread has prompted me to look around a bit. Both the Oxford and Cambridge online dictionaries now accept "airplane" as an alternative UK spelling, while the BBC seems to mostly use "aeroplane" but does sometimes use "airplane". A quick scan of my books and magazines published in the last

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The "aeroplane" spelling is British only. And on the article it says "aeroplane" is Commonwealth. The article also states that "airplane" is North American. Canada is in North America and is also a member of the Commonwealth but uses the "airplane" spelling as well. So it should say: "An airplane

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To these must be added countries whose Wikipedias are less comprehensive than ours and many of whose inhabitants speak English, so they come here often both as visitors and editors. These populations include about half of Europe and over 140,000 in the Indian sub-continent (10%+ of 1.2 billion in

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airplane was invented by Alberto Santos Dumont in 1906 in France, Paris, where, with his legs walking the ground, he helped his plane, named 14-bis, take flight. This article is historically and technically wrong, proposing a wrong vision on one the most important inventions of the XXth century.

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I'm sure this has been done to death already, but I'm wondering why the article is still called 'Airplane'. Of course it's entirely legitimate usage, and I have no problem with it, nor the fact that the article is written in American English. However, the term 'Aircraft' would surely satisfy all

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template. It seems that "aeroplane" is standard in the UK, as well as Australia and New Zealand. As the linked article on Commonwealth English notes, Canada strays away from the Standard and I think a reasonable reader will assume that "North American English" will override any Commonwealth

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I find it strange that there is no mention of Clement Ader first flights. Actually he was the first to fly, before Wright brothers, in 1890 then 1897 in front of a military committee for 300 meters, protected by military secret, and did have patent anteriority that led to multiple trials.

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It's not just this article, it's the entirety of wikipedia. It always puts 'word' or 'word (British English), like American English is where English came from. I wonder if the German Knowledge has this problem with Austrian German, or Portuguese has this problem with Brazilian Portuguese.

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The category is fuel. Hydrogen is the correct term to use, because airplanes do not run on "hydrogen-powered aircraft." It would be like the "fuel" section under "automobiles" instead of listing "diesel", listed "diesel-powered autos", which wouldn't work because automobiles don't run on

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Okay, I see the difference. Thanks for the clarification. Looking at external sources, some do define an airplane as 'powered', but others don't, and include gliders. I suppose it's just one of those many issues that will remain controversial due to language variants. Cheers,

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A very civilized interjection. I was about to write how Euro-centric this article is leaning, by barely mentioning the Wright Brothers without any pics of the Wright Flyer. However, to be clear, the American-British spelling of articles has clearly been stated in the Wiki

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I like distinguishing it. That might be more simply accomplished with: "...is an aircraft with fixed wings that generate lift, when propelled forward by thrust from a jet engine, propeller, or rocket engine, whereas other aircraft rely on rotary wings or buoyancy for

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Thanks. Semi-protection is a wikipedia feature that prevents you from modifying an article if you're unregistered. I don't know why, but I appear unregistered on en.wikipedia.org, even if I am registered through fr.wikipedia.org so I can't access the edition links

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Knowledge is a wonderful resource for people who value information and learning. Readers whose first response is to recoil at the presence of unfamiliar spelling probably don’t value information and learning. Variations in spelling are evident in paper books too.

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about splitting off the airplane/aeroplane content, but it was never done due to the endless arugments of which spelling to use. Finally, one user was BOLD and split off the article to "airplane". And it's been here ever since. And it's going to stay, just like

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ten years reveals several uses of "aeroplane" but none of "airplane". This all suggests that, while the tide may be beginning to turn, it has not turned yet. Whatever advocates of either position may think, the situation is certainly not clear-cut. — Cheers,

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term... should be used in preference to a national variant." Since when does some outside organization trump Knowledge guidelines and policies, even if it is a respected international aviation organization? If we're going that route, then I oppose per

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To further convolute the issue, there are countries, like Canada where I live, where the legal term is "aeroplane" but it is never used outside regulations and legal documents. By far the common term used here in speaking and writing is "airplane". -

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Airplanes are a subset of aircraft. Airplanes are powered, fixed wing aircraft, whereas aircraft includes gliders, hang gliders, balloons, airships, paragliders, gyrocopters, helicopters, tiltrotors and so on. We already have an article about

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Yeah, lol. First off, English people sure didn't invent the language, either. Only constructed languages have inventors. Second off, while Americans didn't invent the language, I can think of one very relevant large flying machine that they

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I wouldn't recommend a formal move proposal solely on the basis of TONE, as it's unlikely to succeed. The title has been settled for over 10 years, and we're just wasting time going over it again. There were nearly 10 years of dicussion on

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Formal tone means that the article should not be written using argot, slang, colloquialisms, doublespeak, legalese, or jargon that is unintelligible to an average reader; it means that the English language should be used in a businesslike

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We don't change text reflecting the consensus of historians in reliable third party sources, based upon your unsourced desire to see this changed. If you want to see this changed you will have to back-up your claim with a new majority of

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numbered? These sort of details might turn it into something resembling a legit article, but they are lacking now. What we have here is a couple sentences worth of info from the "Airplane" page bulked out to make it into an "article".

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forward. Airplanes are crucial in modern transportation, allowing for efficient travel over long distances for passengers, cargo, and military purposes. They play a significant role in global connectivity and commerce.

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Scientific American and the Smithsonian state this is the case, though considering how widely it's repeated across the rest of Knowledge it seems bizarre this one paragraph continues to be wrong based on a blog post.

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https://tc.canada.ca/en/corporate-services/acts-regulations/list-regulations/canadian-aviation-regulations-sor-96-433/standards/standard-724-commuter-operations-aeroplanes-canadian-aviation-regulations-cars

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https://web.archive.org/web/20080920140807/http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov:80/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=2c71ffcfa90ea16afab05fe85ba4f037&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.1.1.0.1.1&idno=14

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This isn't so. A look at last months British newspapers on GNews are mainly saying "plane", sometimes "aeroplane", but "airplane" only occurs in phrases like "airplane mode". Same with Indian newspapers.

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There is no proposal to change the variety of English used in the article. RETAIN does not apply. Rather, this is a proposal to use the internationally recognised term in preference to a local variant.

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which wavers but seems to have stabilized in favor of 'Airplane' (n-grams went extinct in 2009, although I have a fossil of one that I keep in a drawer). Has there ever been an RM, before this one?

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India, plus 50% of 0.2 billion in Pakistan, plus others). Most of these nations are more closely aligned to British English than to American. You can prove anything with statistics. — Cheers,

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That's not the British spelling, it's the official spelling, designated by the French, they created the metric system, it's just that Americans spell it differently to the rest of the world.

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I support keeping the current name. There seems to have been a move proposal back in 2018 if you look above in this page, keep it that way, unless you want to propose a move formally again.

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to slow down the aircraft upon landing. Are there whole paragraphs deleted? That certainly was not the intention. But reading the article rather than the history it appears to be all there.

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why are we being shown out of date historical data from Ngrams? The way to check this is GNews which is current. But then GNews shows all countries using "plane" not airplane/aeroplane....

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I request that you change the “Commonwealth English” for “aeroplane” to “British English” because Canada is a member of the Commonwealth but doesn’t use “aeroplane”, it uses “airplane”.

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I am simply proposing a total compromise which does not compromise TONE in this way. The most populous English-speaking country is India, which uses "aeroplane" as the full formal term (

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Im also disgusted that everything on wikipedia is being americanised. It comes from french originally from ancient greek 'aeroplanos' and its known to most of the world as aeroplane!!:

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A powered flying machine that lacks controllability is effectively useless, as well as dangerous, hence for those claimants the verdict must unfortunately be "Close, but no cigar".

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Yes, airplanes are powered, fixed wing aircraft. Just "fixed wing aircraft" includes other categories of aircraft, like gliders and hang gliders. We already have an article on

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I'm at a loss for what's changed as well, I didn't revert anything. I changed the rpms to rpm (singular as it's per minute) and changed some of the language in this paragraph:

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It suggests that the Concorde service was discontinued because of the sonic boom and high fuel consumption, when it was a more general issue of expenses versus revenues.

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to provide attribution to the source article. I've gone ahead and done this at this article on your behalf (see the History); please see your Talk page for details.

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arguments are bollocks - we don't all live in the US and the international consensus should take priority over its local dialect (cue massive partisan backlash).

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If this were simply a choice of national varieties of English, I would not have made the proposal. I have already quoted from ENGVAR - please read the document.

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aeroplane means a power-driven heavier-than-air aircraft that derives its lift in flight from aerodynamic reactions on surfaces that remain fixed during flight

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Airplane is an engine-driven fixed-wing aircraft heavier than air, that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of the air against its wings.

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It talks about the use of flaps as if they were unique to jet aircraft and speaks of "high speeds" on takeoff and landing. It's better to just say the speeds.

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Note that the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI) does not consider Wright Flyer hops prior to the 1903 flight to have set any kind of record. The

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As far as I'm aware nobody (myself included) has considered the implication of ICAO definitions before. It just came to my attention in another discusssion.

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It's written in American English. You'll have to establish consensus to change it to British English (though I highly doubt that RFC would go through). ⸺(

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I have no particular problem with the article being written in American English, but surely the title ought to compromise between all forms of English, as

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https://www.caa.co.uk/commercial-industry/aircraft/airworthiness/type-certificate-and-type-approval-data-sheets/part-21/approval-of-part-21-aeroplanes/

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Airplane means an engine-driven fixed-wing aircraft heavier than air, that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of the air against its wings.

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But are airplanes actually defined as being powered? If not, the article could be 'Fixed wing aircraft'. Maybe a bit wordy, but it might fit the bill.

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always overrides an official name. The common spelling is the North American spelling. No compelling evidence at this time to support a title change.

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I agree it is not clear cut. My unscientific comparison showed a slight edge for aeroplane when a boolean exclusion of "Knowledge" (as suggested in

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was rocket powered and shouldn't be in the section on jets. Am I missing something? Don't have time to confirm my impressions right now. Thank you.

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Aeroplane was first made in 1895 eight years before wright brothers it was created in india in mumbai not in America ,by Shivkar Bapuji Talpade.

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situation and just come to an agreement about how to write this section, so that it best represents the subject and is clear to our readership.

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The first inventor of airplane was Indian scientist Shivkar bapuji talpade who had invented airplane 8 years before Wright brothers in bombay

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140814194929/https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/7095890/the-naca-nasa-and-the-supersonic-hypersonic-frontier

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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I will await your more detailed explanation about your decision to revert, before reverting back to the previous version. Let's avoid a

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Oh yeah, aeroplane is definitely the official British/Canadian/Australian term, for sure. But that... uh... doesn't override WP:RETAIN

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So, rather than decrying "Americanisation" on Knowledge, you should be thankful any other English variants are allowed at all. Allowed

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https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/pilots/pilot-and-flight-crew-exams/pilot-exams/private-pilot-licence-aeroplane-exams

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section with the edit comment, "It is revolutions per minute therefore singular", which did not reveal the extent of your reversion.

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Actually there is no disagreement or controversy among informed sources on this issue. For instance all regulatory agencies, like

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I mean really, reading through wikipedia articles you'd think that bloody Americans invented the English language, it's pathetic.

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If you look at the banners at the top of this Talk page you will see one saying “This article is written in American English...”

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I feel that the remaining existing sentences in the first paragraph provide appropriate detail (which, however may become dated).

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It uses non-encyclopedic language, like, "Most modern jet planes", "this is called", "Jet aircraft possess high cruising speeds".

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Actually the various other claims for first 'powered flight' condition usually left out of the equation is 'controllable' as in

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I am requesting edit because this page is misinforming people about the invention of the airplane. In 1903 the Wright brothers

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For the record, he coined the word "avion" which means airplane in french, and aviation is also a word borrowed from french. --

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Why is the title airplane and not aeroplane? Aeroplane is the original spelling, airplane is just a later Americanisation.

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The sources for the claim that the Wright brothers invented and flew the first airplane link to a non-existent website.

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -

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Thanks for your request here, but Knowledge article titles don't incorporate alternative spellings, instead we use

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I concur. Mention of that term was only intended to suggest that "plane" did not comport with formal use! Cheers,

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Hence my suggestion to clarify by changing it to "was claimed by some at the time", since we know it isn't true.

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.

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Yes, you did. I couldn't recall who it was, but remembered when I saw your user on my watchlist.

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It is true that the 14-bis "was claimed to be the first airplane flight unassisted by catapult".

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The Australian CAA, Canadian CAR and British CAA also spell the term out, as "aeroplane". See:

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shows essentially the same result with "airplane" outpacing "aeroplane" approximately 4 to 1.

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Jet aircraft possess high cruising speeds (700–900 km/h or 430–560 mph) and high speeds for

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a flying vessel into the air. It did not take flight by itself. Therefore, the first

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The FAA uses "airplane", ICAO uses "aeroplane". The latter is an international body.

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then, In all other forms of English "airplane" seems childish, and thus undermines

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This article is semi-protected, and being french, I can't edit it, so I post here.

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Talk:Fixed-wing aircraft/Archive 2#Clarification of article scope or requested move

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one example, though also found report on storm that referred to "light airplane".

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It is completely unreferenced, but you removed the tag highlighting that problem.

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Commonwealth English first then American spelling that's how it should be done.

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Because "plane" is too informal, and not all aircraft are airplanes/aeroplanes.

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so we don't have to repeat these debates on every article related to aviation.

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Hey, that was me! I get to tell everyone I meet in real life that I not only

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Do we really need an entire article about how aircraft engines are numbered?

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Here are what I regard as the defects of the version that you reverted to:

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I concur that "rpm" should be singular. Thanks for that observation!

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