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1998:Dr. Blofeld
1967:Dr. Blofeld
1938:Dr. Blofeld
1674:word choice
1594:Dr. Blofeld
1510:Dr. Blofeld
1482:Dr. Blofeld
1437:Dr. Blofeld
1334:Dr. Blofeld
1300:WWII -: -->
1265:Dr. Blofeld
1180:Reworded --
1170:Wooten Hall
1152:Reworded --
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1103:Reworded --
1082:Reworded --
1021:Dr. Blofeld
984:Dr. Blofeld
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756:Dr. Blofeld
687:transcluded
2494:Categories
2462:Report bug
1707:verifiable
1531:Last batch
1408:Removed --
1061:Removed --
938:Removed --
640:Authorship
626:GA toolbox
605:Biblioteqa
37:under the
2445:this tool
2438:this tool
2211:this tool
2204:this tool
2089:Rosiestep
2060:Rosiestep
1906:Pass/Fail
1784:(focused)
1538:Footnotes
1410:Rosiestep
1382:Rosiestep
1360:Rosiestep
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854:Etymology
806:Rosiestep
781:Rosiestep
699:Reviewer:
663:Templates
654:Reviewing
619:GA Review
2478:Valetude
2451:Cheers.—
2217:Cheers.—
2083:SchroCat
2066:SchroCat
2023:Bedrooms
1950:SchroCat
1930:SchroCat
1606:SchroCat
1578:SchroCat
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1451:SchroCat
1398:Bedrooms
1276:SchroCat
1033:SchroCat
739:SchroCat
723:SchroCat
712:contribs
702:SchroCat
668:Criteria
84:GA-class
47:reassess
2249:my edit
2245:Althorp
2227::Online
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2144:my edit
2140:Althorp
2118:Ipigott
1900:Overall
1678:fiction
1648:(prose)
1380:Done --
1358:Done --
1305:Done --
1226:Library
1208:Done --
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298:on the
271:England
262:England
218:England
193:on the
27:Althorp
2175:failed
2034:Now?♦
1854:images
1829:stable
1827:It is
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1680:, and
1670:layout
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1626:review
90:scale.
54:Review
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1495:Diana
1017:OK.♦
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