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The Korean War section consists of full account of the action on Hill 282, but nothing else; it's also more information than on any other action mentioned. Can I suggest that this is moved to a page entitled "Hill 282",or somesuch,with links to other pages on Korean war battles, and another paragraph
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Article mentions that 9 Btns were raised during WW2, which seems too high to me! I suspect that this figure includes some, if not all, of the Regt's Btns that were in existence prior to the war. The pre-war Btns were the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th & 11th. The 9th Btn had been converted
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G'day, for me it would depend on the level of sourcing that is available. Some battalion-level organisations are notable enough for an article to be written on them. For instance, most Australian infantry battalions have had at least one, if not more, full books published on them. I imagine that it
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No nick name is shown for the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. It has one of the most famous nick names in the British Army - The Thin Red Line - a name earned at the battle of Balaklava when the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders under Sir Colin Campbell stood in line formation and repelled the Russian
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might be different in the UK, though, due to the larger scope of military operations that they have been involved in which means that historians may have used a "broader brush". Having said that, I note that many of the parachute battalions have their own articles, see for example
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cavalry heading for the British base at Balaklava. The Argylls are unique in the British Army as the only infantry regiment with the battle honour "Balaklava" - all of the other regiments with this honour being the cavalry regiments that made up the Heavy and Light Brigades.
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into this article to bring these into line with articles on most other post 1881 British Army regiments i.e. to discuss their post 1881 history in one place. The history of the 2nd battalion is not notable enough (see
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This is simply not true. British infantry broke the mass of French cavalry at the Battle of Minden in 1759, nearly one hundred years previously, with musketry. The Wiki article on the Battle of Minden states:
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Another thought: possibly counting the 3 duplicate TA Bns as "war-formed". In fairness, they were formed in 1939 (duplication of TA as a result of the Munich Crisis) in the expectation of a new European war.
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According to Regiments.org, 7 Btns were raised during the war: 1939: 12th (Home Defence), 13th (Home Defence) & 14th (Home Defence) 1940: 15th, 50th (Holding) & 70th (Young Soldier) 1941: 30th
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I'm sure I could find other examples, but this is the most famous. This is not an effort to diminish the 93rd's achievement, but simply to eliminate unnecessary and incorrect hyperbole.
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However, I suspect that, in 1940, the 50th Btn became the 15th Btn; and in 1941, the 14th Btn became the 30th Btn. In which case, there would only have been 5 war-formed Btns.
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Of course Regiments.org (only archived copies are available) and ordersofbattle.com have errors, so it would be nice for someone to find a good source.
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Apropos of this, there are a bunch of "Volunteer Battalions" from which many of these arose: should we have links and/or articles for them? HTH HAND —
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It was the argyll and sutherland highlanders that performed the bayonett charge in afghanistan, not the princess of wales regiment.
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more info on WWII actions, eg, I believe that the Argylls were part of 51st Division in North west Europe and saw heavy action there
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On the contrary, given the amount of detail currently on the page, I would say merge away. It can always be reseparated later.
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12th Bn formed November 1939 from part of No. 63 Group NDC for Home Defence; redesignated as 30th Bn in December 1941
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70th Bn formed September 1940 as Young Soldier Bn from companies of 13th (HD) ASH, 14th (HD) ASH, 10th (HD) RSF
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14th Bn formed December 1939 from No. 65 and 75 Groups NDC for Home Defence; disbanded October 1940
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The article, in describing the 93rd's famous stand at Balaklava, says that the regiment:
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to the 54th LAA Regt in 1938 (and duplicated pre-war to form the 58th LAA Regt).
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lists of battle honours require better presentation (but not bullet points)
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3rd and 4th bns Militia in suspended animation so do not count, I reckon
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30th renumbered from 12th (HD) Bn December 1941; disbanded January 1943
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5th Bn TA formed as duplicate of 5th/6th in 1939 (so, pre-war?)
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15th Bn formed May 1940 by redesignation of 50th (Holding) Bn
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and 5 War-formed: 12th (30th), 13th, 14th, 50th (15th), 70th
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11th Bn TA formed as duplicate of 8th in 1939 (so, pre-war?)
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10th Bn TA formed as duplicate of 7th in 1939 (so, pre-war?)
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So, 8 pre-war: 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th
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Note no mention of when 50th (Holding) Bn was formed.
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