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No sexual attraction and no desire for sex is Black Stripe Aces. Which was the section of the ace community who defined themselves as such, but not the whole tof the ace community, so I'd like to have a more expansive definition for asexuality at the top, which does include aven's own definition on
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Honestly I think this is a troll, but here I go. Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction, sex positive, neutral, and negative asexuals are how we describe weather or not they want sex. Aromanticisim is the lack of romantic attraction. Asexuals can have romantic attraction, and vice versa.
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Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Asexuals are not attracted to any gender at all. People who have low sex drives, or who require romance before sex are found in all sexual orientations (asexuality, hetrosexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality), and they are not asexuals.
1165:. Although AceRebel is being disruptive like a newbie, it's clear that AceRebel is not a newbie. Not sure what AceRebel is trying to achieve except for trying to get the article delisted because of their views on AVEN (and possibly due to other personal feelings).
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Looking at the article shows this nomination to be patently absurd and conspiratorial in its rambling about AVEN. I also note that this user (or I should say, account) has a grand total of 23 edits. CU would be a good idea. This should be speedily closed.
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