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Whatever you think for the name is fine with me. It was the owner's company but I think they were only named that for one season. They are referred to as Ecomax on
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In terms of the FL/GA, there was only a small amount of text in the FL submitted version and it appeared to be the case that I either had to lose that and meet some exacting format standards for the list, or add a lot more text and submit as a GA instead. In addition to Hibs, there are precedents at
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Stevenage Borough, Newton Heath, etc. So do we need Ecomax's later name? On a side note, were the club officially named Ecomax? I can't find any reference to them being named that on other
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not counting the Latin Cup or the fact that they had a UCL+UEL season, so that was to clarify whey the figure differed. But would anyone be that bothered? I'd be happy to just remove it, or open to suggestions on how to deal with it better if you do think it should stay? Thanks.
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Yay! Thank you again for taking the time to review it, aand for your constructive comments for improvements as was needed.
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