Talk:Auto-da-fé - Knowledge

2508:·I am a non-expert on the topic, but I felt like I should point out that the estimates of 31912 vs 28540 vs "around 3000" seem kind of ludicrous. The first two estimates are precise, though not necessarily accurate- and they are in the same ballpark. I checked the source on the the third estimate, and found some of his claims to be contentious- though he is well respected in the field. I get the feeling that there has been an effort to minimize the crimes of the Church on wikipedia... which would make sense, since Christianity is the most popular religion and editors, being largely Westerners, are largely Christian. For instance the article on Hitler's religion documents all sorts of people who claim to have heard him being critical of Christianity in private, but doesn't document all (or any, if I remember correctly) of the many times he praised God and/or Jesus in his televised speeches and in Mein Kampf... I stopped counting after around 20 of such exultations. In any case, I thought we might want to walk the "around 3000" number back a little bit in terms of credibility. This is my first edit- apologies if I did it it all wrong. 809: 788: 492: 471: 423: 819: 1239:

speaking one's) confused about the basic rules of contraction of articles ("o" "a" "um" "uma") and prepositions ("de" ,"por" etc.). The reason why some people have always seen it written "auto da fe" in sources published in english, is also that exact same mistake. Nowhere in portuguese language sources, historical or comtemporany is the form "auto da fe" to be seen. Well ... except primary school student ortography mistakes.

2235:"No more than 2% of the hundreds of thousands that were persecuted were ever executed. The primary motivation of the trial was to obtain reconciliation and forgiveness of convicted offenders, but the trials were also ideological and racial persecutions, mainly towards relapsed conversos, Jews converted into Christianity under the pressure of the Holy Office. The trials can also be seen as an appeal for public support." 347: 320: 502: 191: 435: 357: 240: 222: 250: 1520: 2464:. Relevance is not in chronology or geography, it's in and about widespread destruction of evidence. There is evidence in literature about destruction of evidence on Philiphines and Mexico, too. A to being unimpressed, I am unimpressed by your uncritical selection of references to prove your 2%, not even reading what I wrote, nor reading the references I quoted.-- 927:"Blood" is the term used in contemporary documents and legislation. It is exactly from such dark pages of history as this that present day racists and white supremacists draw their terminology, and indirectly get many of their vile ideas. Your suggested sanitized version using 'ancestry' is a) anachronistic b) euphemistic and c) not born out by relevant sources. 2414:"The almost complete loss or destruction of the records of the Seville and Cordoba tribunals make it effectively impossible to substantiate accounts, in contemporary and latter sources, of the number of arrests and deaths i the early days, though surviving documentation of other tribunals, such as Ciduad Real-Toledo and Valencia, provide a clearer picture." 2172:

Also, I'm not sure I understand what it does with hyphens: terms with hyphens in seem to generate no hits at all. Adding the hyphens appears to be purely a feature of anglicisation of the phrase, as it doesn't occur in the source languages (Portuguese, Spanish) as far as I know, and it would be interesting to be able to track that over time.

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source seems to argue that the numbers of the Toledo and Valencia trials actually do give a clearer picture. Neither modern source supports the quarter-million convictions, including 50,000 death sentences, given in the 1839 source. And neither source supports a deliberate campaign of evidence destruction. I am rather unimpressed.

1602:"The first Spanish auto de fé took place in Seville, Spain, in 1481; six of the men and women who participated in this first religious ritual were later executed." It would be helpful to know how many men and women took part, out of whom six were executed. It would also help to know for what offense they were executed. 1528:--Something Else not about above paragraphs-- To learn more about the auto-de-fe, read The Cross By Day, The Mezuzah By Night. It is a fiction book but it shows a lot about the autos- de- fe and also about the marranos and Edict of Expulsion. I am doing a class project about the marranos and that helped a lot. 2586:

say, "Gee, this seems to be a great day for an auto da fe!" (which is a Spanish term, BTW). There has to more than just Louis, a victim, and a match. Right now, there is nothing except a link to a hard copy. I couldn't find anything better online, but there are journals that other editors have access to.

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I don't believe this is a trustworthy source. The description of the jizya/dhimmi system is entirely different both in content and tone from Knowledge's own article on this topic. As I don't really know the etiquette for editing Knowledge, I'd like to ask for help in strengthening that section. Thank

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A statement in the first subsection reads, "The first recorded auto-da-fé was held in Paris in 1242, under Louis IX." This seems to be true. Then the paragraph goes on to give the fundamental underpinnings of the Spanish Inquisition. What is missing here, is that Louis did not wake up one morning and

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Catholic Encyclopedia uses a variety of forms and spellings. I count one occurrence of "auto de fe" (Jose Maria Morelos), one occurrence of "auto de fé" ("Mexico"), one occurrence of "auto da fe" ("Valladolid"), one occurrence of "auto da fé" ("Lisbon"), and four occurrences of "auto-da-fé" ("Gabriel

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I think the author is trying to say is that members of the church did not themselves actually execute people convicted of heresy. Rather, the person would be "relaxed" to the civil authorities, who would carry out the actual sentence. Therefore, the "act of faith" never, technically, involved torture

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Is it on purpose that there is no mention of the condemned's religious background and characteristics? if so, why is that? eg Jews, Muslims, and the many others who were targeted by auto da fés. In this article, Jews for instance are mentioned only in the bottom page categories and in the references.

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Words like "blood" and "bloodline" should not be used to indicate ancestry. "Blood" implies contemporary physical traits (similar to how we today think of DNA, somewhat incorrectly, as a carrier of physical traits), and as such, "blood" is a word favored by white supremacists and racists and is often

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The authors you quoted are far from reliable. The issue is that the Roman Catholic Church intentionally destroyed the data related to these crimes committed by Inquisition. That's why serious contemporary historians are going back to the historians who were closer to that time and who had ability to

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That is interesting, although I'm not sure I quite understand what's going on there. For example, I see a huuuuuge spike for "auto de fe" in 1906, and yet when I click through to the search for 1906 hits there are 101 results, and when I change the search term to "auto da fe" it becomes 222 results.

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Also, the idea that "torture place after a trial concluded" assumes a rather narrow definition of torture. Burning at the stake and the breaking wheel are both unnecessarily time-consuming and painful methods when a headsman's axe, a noose or a simple fatal cudgeling would have done the job just as

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published in 1942 by The Jewish Publication Society of America draws attention to information that raises a contradiction in some areas as to the above paragraph. Beginning on page 75, chapter 6 entitiled "The Martyrdom of Francisco Maldonaldo de Silva"; it details an AVTO DE LA FE and has a picture

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The caption lists the date of the auto de fe painting as 1475, but how is this possible if the Inquisition didn't begin in Spain until 1478 and the first auto de fe in 1482 (and Portugal in the 1500s), as the article states? Is the painting from a site outside of Spain that began holding autos de fe

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In the first paragraph, under "History" there is a brief discussion of the jizya system and the dhimmi status that Jews and Christians were given under Muslim Spain. This entire argument is basically a quote from the first citation(WNG), that describes itself as "Sound journalism, grounded in facts

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I'm sorry, I really missed the Roth source; thank you for pointing it out. But I have to note that for his first set of numbers Roth relies on the same source as the Penny Cyclopedia, namely Llorente, and that Roth also predates the reconsideration of the Inquisition that began in the 1970s. What I

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Sorry for being dumb, but are you saying that the 1839 source you gave in the article is by a "serious contemporary historian"? Otherwise I seem to have missed the one I already got. The Venice source you gave seems to be both geographically and chronologically irrelevant, and the "Spain 1474-1520"

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Both the dictionaries by my desk (Concise Oxford, 1964; Collins Concise, 1999) list the phrase under "Auto-da-fé". The Oxford dictionary mentions the Spanish spelling "-de-fé" at the very end of its entry as an alternative, but the Portuguese "Auto-da-fé" is the head-spelling chosen for listing.

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the Inquisition. The Inquisition recorded testimony for later review, which is how we know the details of Joan of Arc's trial, for example. When people had the choice of being tried by a secular court or the Inquisition, they would choose the Inquisition! While modern readers may not take that as

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the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be

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Numbers of hits in Google web searches. Note that this is a complex and uncertain piece of evidence, as Google has various "smart matching" algorithms, so searches for some of these terms actually include hits for other versions. Also, the multitude is not necessarily right. Finally, some of the

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Encyclopedia Britannica 1911 edition uses "auto-da-fé" ("da", hyphens, accent), although the article suggests that it is "more correctly" "auto-de-fé" ("de", hyphens, accent). Comments made by other wikipedia contributors above suggest that "auto-de-fé" is NOT in fact "more correct", as the "de"

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That the account is "too lengthy" is no excuse not to explain just about what it says and how does it contradict the other information given in the article: that "auto da fe" (or "auto de fe") was an act of public penance of a sentenced heretic and reading of his sentence; that it took place in

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yes, this is plain wrong, it's a lack of basic portuguese language skills affecting many english wikipedia contributors. The form "auto da fe" doesnt exist in Portuguese. Neither in 16th century portuguese neither in modern portuguese. This a very common mistake on Knowledge of users (english

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would like to see is a source that is aware of the newer estimates given by the likes of Henningsen and Kamen and still disagrees. Otherwise I fail to see why we should emphasize older scholarship over newer results. You have called the newer sources unreliable; could you please explain why?

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and should refer to 'auto-da-fé' throughout (except when quoting) as the established form used most commonly in English. I've made those changes. The article now asserts that the form was 'auto de fe' in medieval Spanish and 'auto da fé' in Portuguese: I shall leave it to those competent or

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Just for the record, I'm Portuguese and the most common designation in modern Portuguese is by far "auto de fé" (or auto-de-fé) In old Portuguese this was also the case, with the occasional variants "auto-da-fé", "auto da fé", "auto público de fé" and "auto público da fé". Another important

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It seems odd to insist on a "historically accurate" "auto de fe" spelling, when all the cultural examples in English use "auto da fe". That is the way it has been represented more often in literature and general works in English, which may indeed be different than results from the

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Someone keeps inserting that the accused did not have the right of discovery of witnesses and evidence prior to the trial. This is true! This right was invented in the United States in the 1950s or so. It did not exist between Hammurabi and Woodrow Wilson. The idea was to observe

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might be more historically accurate is potentially an important one, but is not currently conveyed effectively by the article (I didn't know it until I came and read the discussion!). The article currently looks as though the typo fairy has been busy, with the article 'named'

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I've removed all cultural references of the type "X mentions 'auto-da-fé' in his work Y" which gave no indication that it's more than a passing mention. I left those where a work is titled "auto-da-fé" or where an indication was given that it's a significant plot element.

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1. Text such as, "after the trial, officials proclaimed the prisoner's sentence and administered it in an auto-da-fé," state that auto-da-fés included, or consisted of, the carrying out of sentences. This has been commented on several times previously on the

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Regarding Venice: Whatever happened to the Venetian archives is obviously irrelevant to the Spanish archives. Using a source about the destruction of archive A to support the unreliability of archive B seems ill-founded. Edward Peters argues in

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of the announcement being held by The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition of Peru, on the 23rd of January, 103 years after the discovery of Peru. Diego Núñez de Silva is the person in question. The account is too lengthy to relate.

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Yeah, in English the Portuguese variant is much better established and the whole variant of auto de fe seems to be a forceful Hispanization of the English language, hopefully I will use the only one correct auto-da-fé variant in English.

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I've always heard "auto da fe", with "da" instead of "de", and that it's Portuguese rather than Spanish. Is changing "da" to "de" the only difference between the Portuguese phrase and the Spanish, or could this perhaps be an error?

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I've added tags to two sections, the "History" section and the "A Spectacle in Antisemitism" section to indicate that a large portion of the former and the entirety of the latter are written in essay-style and lack any citations.

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These numbers simply do not add up to the tens of thousands claimed executed in the 19th century source, and the total number of trials is, according to García Cárcel, just 150,000, less than the 1839 number of convictions.

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I agree that the "research paper" tag does not make sense in this article, as the text seems perfectly understandable. I'm removing it. Also, the number of "citation needed" tags added to this article is clearly overkill.

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is quite interesting, finding that "da fe" was definitely dominant in the 19th century (when the phrase seems to have been in more common use), but that in the 20th century use of the two forms may have been much more

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This sentence should instead say, "traced the ancestry of Christians..." The use of the word "blood" to indicate ancestry should be removed from this article and all Knowledge articles and replaced with "ancestry."

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Also on the translation, I don't agree with "Auto" as "Act", Gil Vicente has several works titled "auto" which give them a more suitable sense of "Podium" or "Altar", a place where faith is being displayed.

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Unknown translator of Elias Canetti's 1935 novel (1946, reference in article) used "Auto-da-Fé" ("da", hyphens, accent). Unknown translator of new edition (2005) used "Auto da Fé" ("da", no hyphens, accent)

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the sentences were executed by the secular authorities. ... They usually comprised a lengthy procession, a solemn mass, an oath of obedience to the Inquisition, a sermon, and the reading of the sentences."

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statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this

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I have to admit I have always encountered the phrase as "auto-da-fé". I suspect use of that form, particularly in metaphor, may also have been helped by its more assertive staccato rhythm in English.

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distinction, "auto" in the case of "auto de fé", means "indictment", and not so much "act". So this was an indictment by religious officials that would accuse people to be killed by civil punishment.

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the accused reacted to unexpected evidence and witnesses, the only way people without video cams, lie detectors, fingerprints, and DNA, could think of how to trap a cunning felon. See, for example

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arm. The secular state performed executions, which generally punished a repeated offense of heresy, following a first conviction. If prisoners in this category remained obdurate, the executioners

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One further point: at the top of the article a template stating, "This article is written like a research paper or scientific journal," has been included. I think that's very far from the truth.

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Chambers dictionary (1994) gives "auto-da-fé" ("da", hyphens, accent). Chambers also gives the plural as "autos-da-fé". It cites the origin as Portuguese "auto da fé" (Spanish "auto de fe").

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If the first auto de fe took place in 1481, how could Pedro Berruguete paint Saint Dominic presiding over an auto de fe in 1475? He couldn't. It seems that he actually did it in 1490. Elad

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Therefore, the word "da" does not exist in Spanish, perhaps in Portuguese yes. "De" means "of" and if you want to mean "of the" you have to write "del" (masc.) or "de la" (fem.).

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or execution, even though inquisitors would have known full well what was going to happen and would have cooperated in every way to ensure the condemned met his fate.

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presenting his opinion without providing sources, getting some disagreement from an IP editor, and remaining unconvinced. That's hardly what I'd call a discussion.

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be used throughout the article when referring to the headword. All quotes from sources/titles, of course, should render the word(s) exactly as the source has them.

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occur in the auto de fe. The above paragraphs, together with the historically inaccurate picture that illustrate this article, were generating much confusion. --

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Random House dictionary gives "auto-da-fé" ("da", hyphens, accent). Random House also gives the plural as "autos-da-fé". It cites the origin as "Portuguese".

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The Inquisition enjoyed only limited power in Portugal, lasting only four years. The one act of auto da fe in Porto took place in Lisbon's Rossio Square.

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As for me I have read a lot of books in English and never heard about the spelling auto de fé up until now. A WEB search also is in favor of auto-da-fé

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article which provides modern scholarship estimating the death toll at about 3,000-5,000, which corresponds to 2% to 4% of a total of 150,000 cases. -

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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere. The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.

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This article mentions a couple of times that it was not, typically, torture or excectution. But it never actually says what actually DID happen.

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I am Spanish and in Spanish the word "fe" (faith) does not have an accent. It is wrong to say "Auto de fé", the correct spelling is "Auto de fe".

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which depicts two men being executed. Is this painting incorrect? It has been widely reproduced. Currently, this does not makes sense.

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Spain, Portugal, and their colonies; and that it is inappropriate to refer to the actual execution as "auto da fe" ("act of faith"). -

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While there is some valuable information above, almost all of it is not really related with the auto-de-fe. The trial/investigation

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Collins English Dictionary (10th ed, 2009) gives "auto-da-fé" ("da", hyphens, accent). Collins cites the origin as from Portuguese.

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I'll try to look up that source, but the numbers seem roughly correct, vastly more so than the 1839 source's numbers. Compare the

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The Inquisition enjoyed only limited power in Portugal, lasting only four years, with only one act of auto da fe in Porto.

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Vladimir Nabokov, in the foreword to his translation of "Pale Fire", used "auto-da-fé" ("da", hyphens, accent). See

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reflects a Spanish origin in which "fe" is NOT accented (also confirmed by the Chambers Dictionary reference above).

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grateful support for the Inquisition, they can at least take it as a condemnation of local (lay) court procedure!

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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John Edwards: The Spain of the Catholic Monarchs, 1474-1520 Volume 5 of History of Spain; Wiley-Blackwell, 2000

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https://web.archive.org/web/20111116184747/http://www.tv3.cat/historiesdecatalunya/cronologia/cron169134131.htm

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I agree that modern justice was not available at Inquisition procedures. In fact, the modern system of justice

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If we are using the Spanish spelling, it should be "fe" not "fé" since that word is not accented in Spanish.--

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Well, I agree, auto da fé would be more appropriate, all the English dictionaries give the variant with da

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raises a good point about sources, so here are some of the sources I consulted before proposing "

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Sure it is, but that article actually presents reliable sources to back up its numbers. Namely:

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listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are

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Brian Pullan: The Jews of Europe and the Inquisition of Venice, 1550-1670; I.B.Tauris, 1998

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in particular. The spelling "Auto-da-fé" was also retained in Bernstein's musical adaptation.

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well. Inflicting pain on the condemned was at least as important as actually killing him.

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Please, avoid attributing false statements to me! When I said "contemporary", I mean

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knowledgable to adjust/correct those claims themselves as appropriate if necessary.

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The Database of the Spanish Inquisition. The relaciones de causas project revisited

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I'm inserting new information in the article and removing the paragraphs bellow:

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Without knowing a thing about the subject, it appears to me that it should read:

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until I read this, but I see that some Portuguese speakers do use it. However,

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Could you please provide an example of such a serious contemporary historian?

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accompanied by racist terminology like "purity of blood" and "not one drop ."

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2. The article seems to omit mention of victims other than Jewish conversos.

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in 1210. (p 387). Presumably he's referring to the incident described at

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We certainly have a bit of a mix-up here at the moment. The notion that

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and Biblical truth". The cited article from WNG starts by saying:

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