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BabyFirst is a media company that produces and distributes content for babies through television, the internet and mobile apps. The content is intended to develop a baby's skills, such as color recognition, counting and vocabulary. There are about 90 BabyFirst TV shows and 41 apps for mobile devices.
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BabyFirst was founded in 2004 by Guy Oranim and Sharon Rechter. Its first broadcast was through DirectTV in 2006. It was funded by Regency Enterprises, Kardan, and Bellco Capital. Distribution expanded through agreements with the Echostar Dish Network, Comcast, AT&T U-verse and others. It also
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source (citation 6) does not explicitly use the word "controversy" but also verifies that BabyFirst "became the first 24-hour cable and satellite network to offer programming aimed at viewers between 6 months and 3 years old" and the DirectTV bit. I don't think I would go as far as "first of its
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There are many instances of "In " that are missing a comma after that phrase. For example, the last paragraph in the Distribution expansion section begins with, "In the early 2000s the Federal Trade Commission..." while the last sentence, which is correct, reads, "As of 2014, it has 81 million
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Trims a lot of trivial information, such as pricing (per WP:NOPRICE), primary or unsourced content, etc. I tried to focus on its expansion into TV networks that have secondary sources (there are about 40 channels the station airs on and we can't reasonably list them
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Do you mind doing the honors? You may have seen my COI disclosure and this is one of those things where a COI often creates the appearance of impropriety, by using "claims" for viewpoints they want to discredit and "states" for POVs they want to support, etc.
1399:"Some experts say", "Parents in-turn say", "BabyFirst says"… that seems like an overuse of the word "say". I'd replace most of those if possible, perhaps, "Some experts argue", "Parents in-turn refute that argument, claiming…" and "BabyFirst suggests" 1222:, the Rocky Mountain News, which says "BabyFirst TV, a controversial." It does not explicitly say "controversial for _____" but it's reasonably apparent it's referring to "the first 24-hour network aimed at children as young as 6 months old." 1211:"BabyFirst was controversial when it was introduced…" was the fact that it was the first network of its kind the only reason? Did anything else make the network controversial, and if so, is there a source to back that claim up? 974:
As there has been no discussion in over a week, I've completed this requested edit. After a second and third read-through I found no controversial material, and the article adheres to our polices as best I can tell. Cheers,
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developed a premium BabyFirst YouTube channel, and mobile apps. One app developed with AT&T U-verse allows babies to interact with the television programming by drawing on a mobile device.
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Other than that, the refs look great with few problems and no major plagiarism concerns. Fix these issues and expand the lead slightly (doesn't have to be much), and I'll give it a pass.
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I've gone through the main section of the article. I'm too busy right now to take a good look at the references and links, but I hope to have that done before the end of the weekend.
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Given the length of the article, I'd suggest expanding the lead section from where it is now (three sentences) to maybe two paragraphs, or at least a longer single paragraph. See
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Incorporates several factual corrections. The current list of investors is incorrect. I have not found any sources regarding the channel being "briefly replaced with BabyTV"
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the listed owners to Ride On, Cerberus Capital Management and RTL Group without a source. Can someone revert it back to the correct owners confirmed by reliable sources?
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In short, the prose looks okay, it just needs some minor cleanup. I'll take a look at the references within the next few days, hopefully sooner than later. Thanks, --
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I'll take this review. I'll be somewhat busy over the next couple of days, but I will certainly post some initial comments by the end of the week. --
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Refs 10, 23, and 27 all have urls ending with ".comews", while ref 4 ends with "ypost.com." Make sure those are fixed. Ref 18 needs an access date.
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Also, the company now goes by just "BabyFirst" without the "TV" in their name, so I'd suggest we move the article appropriately. Pinging
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kind" - it was just considered the first to go quite as young as it did, but there were many TV programs aimed at babies before them.
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Except I didn't use the word "argued" as it was just a description of the channel, as oppose to a position in a debate. I used "said"
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Documents the debate about whether exposing babies to television is healthy (currently missing from the article entirely)
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Done. I notice that the editor who changed that is on final warning so it might not have have been a good-faith edit.
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Done both. I would have done the first one without prompting had I come across this on my own. —
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An App available to AT&T U-verse viewers…" use a lowercase "a" in "app".
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As of 2014, it is distributed to 81 million homes. The network is based in
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Fair enough. This won't be enough to keep the article from reaching GA. --
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If you feel strongly, I can do this, but I feel it's over-linking.
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is a more appropriate place for readers to find a list of shows.
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