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removing the infobox addition and anything else that was added. As that was the case, i reverted to the first edit. The information -could- be placed in the production, but then, what would you leave in the infobox? This isn't a classic case of one directer as i said. What would you leave in the story section? IMO, we aren't here to decide who did what, or whose job is more entitled of an addition to the infobox, we are here to represent, as closely as possible, the contribution to the film. Adding to that, 10 more lines of code won't cause the page to look bad - the starring section is a proof to that. --

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What is the reason, in your mind, for the names of the sequence directors appearing in the infobox? Could they not be included in the "Production" section of the article instead? Again, I'm not necessarily against your idea, but I am trying to present alternatives. As to the citation issues, I looked

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I don't think that is something that really belongs in this article, as it's more a reflection of those magazine's editorial stance than anything actually in this movie. Personally, I think anyone who tries to make political hay out of a children's animated movie is a little desperate for attention.

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I notice that in the references list, several sources are repeated multiple times. Due to the list being so long, I'd like to clean it up some in the standard method of just naming references and then referring to each individual instance by name rather than listing the full details each time. I do

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In this article, the timeskip to when Bambi is shown as a young adult is described as "years later", while white-tailed deer are generally 'young adults' and ready to mate by their second autumn, if I'm not mistaken. The movie doesn't really indicate that the fictional timeline is any different to

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did the famous paintings of Bambi for the book. I've created the article for Xavier as best I could, I can't find much information on him except that he continued to illustrate up until the late 60's. I think it may have been a pen name/alias. It's very hard to find supporting references to him on

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so having an infobox "too big" isnt valid) not having this very basic and important information about this movie. The way it was (and the way you revered to) just dumps some writers together (one of which isn't even correct) and you don't understand from that who did what (and that's without even

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for this article completely undermines your argument. Clearly, Disney felt the book held primary importance: it dominates their original movie poster. However, if you prefer to go by standard Knowledge practices, then you will of course accept the standard Knowledge practice of citing what is

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I don't know a lot about the production of Bambi, but it is commonly told in San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina, that the drawings for the trees of the forest in Bambi were done there. There is a kind of tree called an Arrayanes that has striking red bark that grows in profusion on an island in

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Seeing as how i edited also the lead section and corrected a mistake in the infobox, i believe the revert itself was wrongly done (with a reason which could have just as much been automated). It wasn't a removal of what he thought wasn't a corrected addition but it was an afterthought revert,

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I fixed the mistakes in that section. In the future you can put the tag copyedit, with double brackets around it, in the section which will list it in the articles needing copyedit. If the whole article needs work on grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc, put the tag at the top of the article.

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Why not? It's not like it's anywhere close to GA or FA quality. Some passages are unsourced, it's missing information, and poorly paced. I'm not saying that all this hard work should be thrown out, but if several new large sources will be added, lots of passages will need to be rewritten.

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is what readers are most likely to be searching for, and there are no guidelines that say that the original work should come first. An exception can be made when the topic has educational value, but I am not sure if that is evident here. (For where it applies, the Hinduism concept

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Nahual Wapi Lake. Apparently the crew of the Bambi movie went there to draw the trees, and indeed, in looking at the film and the trees, one could easily imagine that this is true. This story needs a reference - I am too far away, so I hope someone from Bariloche can confirm this.

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in the theatre when I was a kid, and I seem to recall seeing Bambi's mother topple after the gunshot during their "running away from the hunter" sequence. It was a VERY powerful image for me, and I just wondered if Disney "sissied" it up a little in future releases.

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Sticking mainly to the infobox, the intent of it is to be a summary, not a complete cast/crew listing. So really it should just be the lead director in the infobox, as it was before. As to the cast list there, I'd have no problem culling it down a LOT.

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The current title of this article about Bambi as Disney cartoon is "Bambi" whereas the book's is "Bambi, A Life in the Woods." As a result, searches either internally on Knowledge or externally (e.g., Google) find the cartoon before the book.

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Judy was the number one fan of Bambi. She wrote pice a like Bambi that was never published. When on drives in the woods with her family she would often say, "Cann't you just see Bambi running and playing through the trees."

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Seems pretty clear. I reiterate that the source is not great, but absent better sources of the same content, or sources that make a reasonable claim to the contrary, it beats "I have heard otherwise" or "I believe otherwise".

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The link to the source is dead, and I'm slightly sceptical that it happened. I googled a few possible search terms, but the only sources have used Knowledge to make the claim. Can we get a valid source for this or remove it?

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book by Barrier. Since no page numbers are cited for that book, is it OK to just cite it once and refer to that citation for each additional instance using the named reference, or should we try to get page numbers for it?

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addition to the article's infobox, another editor undid the change and gave a reason in the edit summary, and then you reverted his undo and accused the editor of not acting in good faith. The better way to handle this is

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Just wanted to update you all on this... I've added some details about the diamond release in the "Release" section. If anyone has any questions or comments about the changes, I'd be happy to discuss them. Thanks!

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Therefore, unless someone else strongly disagrees, in 60 days I plan to change the name of this article to "Bambi (film)" and have "Bambi, A Life in the Woods" redirect to "Bambi" as the original source.

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Since no sources have been found that can verify that this film traumatized children, I'm preparing to do major cleanup on the section. The weasel-wording causes the section to lose all its credibility.

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I disagree that the book is the primary topic over the film. However, I am not sure if the film is the primary topic or if neither of them can claim to be the primary topic. The key criteria in the

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Actually, quite a bit more needs to be said. Sure it has a character name, but was it inspired by the book or the film? How is it connected to the film other than by one of the character names? --

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When Bambi tried to get over the log but fell over, Thumper crawled out underneath him, even though he wasn't anywhere near Bambi at the time, he was just off screen. So this must be a goof. --

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the internet. Anyways this article on Bambi should probably link to him somewhere. I can't really think of how or where to edit it into such a large article, I'm sure some clever person can.

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talking about the directors left out). Look at most film articles and you'll see a list of film companies in the infobox or even in this page, a big list of actors. If the information is

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This situation seems improper. The book was every bit as popular as the cartoon (hence Walt Disney's decision to make the cartoon) -- and remains so. Also, it is the original work.

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Disney's official Beauty and the Beast website has announced that Bambi: Diamond Edition will be released in Spring of 2011. It has also been announced on UltimateDisney.com.

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In Neal Gabler's book about Disney, the budget is said to be 1,7 million dollars. If that's a reference that's good enough, perhaps the number could be added in the article.

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are two articles that I thought utilized the “Home media” subsection appropriately. Following the style guideline linked above, I’ve drafted a revision in my Sandbox:

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I haven't been able to find a goof page within my editing field, but in-case anyone else has accounts on sites that may contain lists of goofs - I've found a goof!

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at it and I think it can be fixed without the {{citation needed}} tags. In fact, while you're reading and responding to this (hopefully), I'll be working on that.

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I'm taking a break from work, and somehow found my way here. The production section, at least, has several awful spelling errors (eg. "medifore" for "metaphor").

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While Bambi has been released in several different home media formats in the past 20 years or so , no “Home media” subsection presently exists in the article.

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Change reissue dates to "Bambi was reissued several times through each decade" as that makes a lot more sense. Same with the other classic Disney films.

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If I were to spend a long amount of time and rewrite this article from top to bottom, what would be some essential sources that I would need?

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critiques of the film that can replace this information? Box office info? Someone to back up these claims of traumatizing little children?

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Time magazine lists Bambi among top 25 Horror Films of all times. This is of note. Bambi was cute, but also had poignant scenes of terror.

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But Disney studios is located in Southern California, where the native deer are Mule Deer. Disney has transformed Bambi into a Mule Deer.

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Bambi is one of those movies which has more than one credited individual for the direction and writing roles. That said, there isn't any

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effectively " (film)" for this current entry of Bambi. In which case, I will move forward with my proposed changes as of May 11, 2011.

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Bambi was based on a Vazha Pshavela's novel called Bambi's tale. Pshavela was a Georgian (Republic of Georgia) writer who died in 1915.

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I did. The source says “Disney has transformed Bambi into a mule deer”. There also nothing about the putative location of the movie.

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that has the opinion, rather than to (or only to) an article that summarizes the case without naming it or linking to the opinion. —

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Bambi was reissued to theaters throughout the decades for classic confirmation in a restored version even when it was on super8mm.

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Perhaps change Young to something like Toddler, because a baby is obviously young. (I don't know if this needs to be discussed.)

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In terms of spelling, yes. However, it is preferable to have no word between "parting" and "ways", and now there isn't one.

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While I'm not inclined to disagree with your points, I am going to take issue with how you've approached this. You made a

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is the primary topic, even though most people may be looking for the 2009 film.) I would recommend requesting a move per

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Bambi it's will be released on Blu-ray, part of the Signature Collection to celebrate the film's 75th anniversary.

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Cut out "Story Development" section entirely. Again, this can be worked into the "Production" section as needed. --

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No mistake, and there is a citation, although the link is dead. I have updated it to link to an archived version.

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template. I don't think the word "toddler" is typically applied to a deer. Let's wait and see what others think.

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The section title "Reception" seems to focus solely (uncited, mind you) on Bambi's mother's death. Are there no

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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I'll ask this here, since it's about reissues: Has this movie been edited since its original release? I saw

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Oh man...I see the link goes to a "Coming Soon" webpage now, as they are reconstructing the site. Bummer.

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Without a source this change is original research, both in terms of species and purported location.

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that, so I'm going to go ahead and change it to "Next year" if there aren't any objections.

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it on the talk page instead of getting into a revert war. Now, on to the subject at hand ...

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Seems to me the article should name the case that it discusses in the Copyright section,

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http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1676793_1676808_1676840,00.html

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Does IMDb count as a reference? Or what about the opening credits to the film itself?

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The current Knowledge article on Bambi states that his species is mule deer (

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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we’re agreeing. It’s Gaddy1975 who wants to make the unsourced change.

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Uh, oh. Why can't I edit this page? I want to edit it! I like Bambi.

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The Dogs are voiced by Clarence Nash, according to several sources.

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Depends, can you provide a link? A lot of IMDb is user input, so no.

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for your statement so that we can add it to the article. Thank you.

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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

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Movies of all Time by Time magazine." It's in the last paragraph.

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AND has a place for it in the infobox, it should belong there. --

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Isn't it illegal to kill the mother of a young animal?

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ways and falling to the ground' - should be 'their'.

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