Talk:Banc De Binary

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and not Cypriot-Israeli bearing in mind that that we already put a link to a photo on this page of their Israeli HQ and that the various affiliated companies all do the same thing, are simply a way of them allowing to trade in different geographical areas such as the EU or outside the EU. As far as I can see ET Binary Options is still based in the Diamond District in Ramat Gan, Israel and it is this building which we put a link to the photo of, which appears to have the Banc de Binary logo on the outside of, this proving they are based there. ET Binary options are still posting job ads for sales reps on their Facebook wall, showing that this is where the calls are made from. Quite telling that they are looking for people who can speak many different languages, as Banc de Binary's site is in this too.

3911:. The National Futures Association, not Banc De Binary, is administering the refunds. They have BdB's US customer list. One of the minor provisions is that BdB had to agree that "neither they nor any of their agents or employees under their authority or control shall take any action or make any public statement denying, directly or indirectly, any allegation in the Complaint, Amended Complaint, or the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law in this Consent Order, or creating or tending to create the impression that the Complaint, Amended Complaint and this Consent Order is without a factual basis". 2390: 683: 662: 2959:

rather it said, specifically parts of the text which doesn't match the references precisely. I'm almost certainly going to be back with some of the other issues that BdB will almost certainly raise with us, so if regular editors could read through the article, double check all the used references still work (i.e no 404s) and still say what they did when they were first used that would be brilliant. If there any potential issues with references supporting a little original research etc, fixing it now would be enormously helpful.

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were legally obliged to refund it, and they would have taken further steps to find where it had gone. Padillah can do a search for 'Banc de Binary Scam' and they'll find numerous similar things online about Banc de Binary. I'm more uncomfortable about the sudden appearance of Nick announcing this, as it reminds me of CorporateM's also mysterious and sudden appearance to announce Edits. I'd leave it where it is as it is quite fairly stated and previous editors all said it was well sourced.

1679: 778: 1638: 1063: 417: 1424: 1506: 950: 929: 590: 960: 569: 4522: 3948: 2275: 328: 307: 1706: 32: 2788:. This was the subject of one of the Daily Mail stories about a customer who could not withdraw funds. So it's clear enough that BdB was locking in customer funds and had to stop doing that. The Quebec securities regulator item is already in the article, and the Daily Mail article could be used as an example of a customer running into the practice the Quebec regulator noted. 276: 1578: 338: 865: 844: 1661: 5734: 3993: 3029: 2211: 2152: 5909:. Neither is an RS imho and they rely on Finance Magnates, but the 1st looks like they did a bit of extra research and the 2nd recommends at the end "We recommend you to withdraw all your funds as soon as possible. It would not be the first time when such a company disappears from one day to another without paying back the deposits." (duh) 4589: 3796:... Mr. Laurent is the founder, president and chief executive officer of BdB Ltd. ... Mr. Laurent is the 50% shareholder of BdB Ltd; the other 50% shareholder is his father." All the businesses of the BdB group were owned by Laurent and/or his father. We have in the article that Laurent owned 50%; now we know who owns the other half. 4277:. (That's new information; previous info indicated that Owen Laurent and his father were the owners. Apparently there's someone else behind the scenes.) Owen Laurent was deposed, but exercised his Fifth Amendment right not to answer. The SEC and CFTC still want more documents and files from BdB, including their list of US customers. 5589:

mentioned in the first sentence, which Google puts in an info box in search results. Google currently displays "Banc De Binary is a Cypriot and Israeli investment firm trading in binary options on assets including foreign exchange." They stop there. Because of that, the first sentence ought to say something about the scam aspect.

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Better Business Bureau hates them. I know all that stuff. But I think that we have to condense this section a bit. I could go ahead and boldly do it but I'd like to get some input from everybody about that general concept. I realize that there are some articles that are predominantly negative, and I'm not saying that this article

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make this as fair as possible. If we don't, if we turn this into a hatchet job, the apologists for paid editors are going to use this as an example of how righteous it is to have paid editing, how terrific it is, what a great thing paid editing is. So please, people, let's bend over backwards to be fair.

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I've changed "is or was" to "was" and included the Marker article as a source. I've noticed there that they made a big deal about Shabat being personally responsible for paying the $ 11 million. Certainly he was part of a "jointly and severally" responsible group. But haven't they paid most of the

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Perhaps. At this point the main article contain large amounts of esoteric text, including mathematical formulae that would mean nothing to most readers. Perhaps the best solution is to remove such highly technical and specialized material, so as to give proper weight to controversies, which appear to

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They sell Liverpool FC T-shirts with a choice of "Standard Chartered", "Garudo Indonesia", or "Carlsberg" logos. No "Banc de Binary" option. But Liverpool FC did do some kind of deal with Banc De Binary. Not clear how much. Maybe anyone can buy a sponsorship at some low level. When they buy "Banc de

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When I click on the link in the infobox I get a statement saying as follows: "Dear Valued Customer, Banc De Binary is voluntarily discontinuing its operations in the United States. The United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission and Securities and Exchange Commission have asserted that Banc De

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Given the history of this article, a "reorganization" which makes BdB look better has to be viewed with scepticism. "The company has a history of regulatory issues on two continents, and was barred from accepting U.S. customers in August 2013." misrepresents what they were doing. They were operating

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The problem with that is that the Daily Mail author isn't even in a position to "assert" or "allege" anything at all. He is only reporting what his anonymous informants claims. The journalist had no way of independently verifying what that customer said; he only had his word for it. While it might be

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This court order is worth reading in full, for those interested. There is reference to the CEO fearing criminal prosecution on p. 4. In the footnote on p. 11, it states that the company's principal place of business is Cyprus. Mendaliv, while this is indisputably a primary source, it contains much of

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I do see a promotion problem with this article going back several years. The main problem is that there are all sorts of sources in the article. The reliable sources effectively say that BDB is a scam, the unreliable sources pretend that they are not a scam, but have some non-scam business. So we

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Yeah, and we'd have to be sure that it isn't original research. I just wanted to amplify a bit a posting I made a bit earlier concerning my reorganization of the article. All the paid editors have been swept out of the article, in a very definitive way. So now the onus is on the volunteer editors to

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Ooops. Sorry about mangling that sentence while implementing this edit request. Looks like I left out the key word "client", making it appear like the reporter had lost money. My bad. I restored it with appropriate copyediting and added another citation. Feel free to re-remove it if the sentence and

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reliable. In short, there are a lot of problems with using judicial opinions as sources for anything but quotations and textually attributed statements. While I think the statement in the order is probably right, and probably should be included in the article, I just want to make clear that judicial

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Defendant Banc de Binary is a Cypriot corporation with a principal place of business on Cyprus’southern shore, in Limassol. (Summons (#58-1) at 1). It is affiliated with three other corporations, Defendants ET Binary Options Ltd., BO Systems, Ltd., and BDB Services, Ltd. (Second. Amend. Compl. (#58)

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article to a place where he feels it is accurate and fair. If that's how much work was required to correct one small instance of fake news, Smallbones was asked, how can companies like Google or Facebook, which rely heavily on algorithms as opposed to humans, keep the fraudsters at bay? Smallbones

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I don't particularly care about the screenshot, but I strongly oppose the removal of the logo and the link—those are important pieces of information about the company, useful to readers both for ensuring that they have reached the page they're looking for and for informing them about the company. I

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Disagree - It's misleading to simply describe The Daily Mail as an unreliable tabloid as this is a well written article which gives adequate weight to the companies response. It doesn't say that Banc de Binary repaid the money. As the money was taken without permission from the account Lloyds TSB

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that does the job as well. Banc De Binary is a common enterprise or group of the four corporations (so it is not formerly known as or also known as any of them), but Banc De Binary, Ltd., is one of the four corporations; and it is important not to misconstrue the court on that point, as it does not

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You can probably expect it to be disputed on the grounds that the order is a primary source, or at least not sufficiently independent. BDB's answer to the Second Amended Complaint, while not openly contesting ¶ 4 of the SAC (the significant one for the purposes of this article), seems to anticipate

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Banc de Binary was founded in 2010 by Defendant Oren Shabat Laurent, a twenty-nine year old American and Israeli citizen who lives on the outskirts of Tel Aviv. (Id. at ¶ 16); (Pl.’s Serv. Mot. (#43-1) at 3:10–11). He owns fifty percent of Banc de Binary, and is also the sole owner or fifty percent

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The only reason that Banc de Binary can operate in Europe at all is because the European Union allows financial entities licensed in one EU country to operate in all the others. Cyprus is willing to let binary options companies operate, and they then sell into the rest of the EU. There's a plan to

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Ran into something similar on another page a while back. The URL is on Wikidata, not actually in the infobox here, and the infobox is setup to pull the official link from Wikidata if there is no parameter (including a blank one) for the official website. Easy way to fix is just add the parameter

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It seems that someone in Florida doing business as Vision Financial Partners was reselling Banc De Binary services in the US. (Also, allegedly, stealing customer funds.) The CFTC has clamped down. BdB is not a named defendant in this one, but allegedly did accept funds from US persons, which they

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I'm not sure what this colloquy is about, but I agree the logo is appropriate. But I don't think we need the screenshot, given that many readers can't even access the page in the screenshot! A more appropriate screenshot would be the one US readers see, but that is just a pathway to a self-serving

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I think that the screen shot of bdB's page is not needed in the article, or even the link to its page or logo. BdB is essentially an illegal site in the US because it doesn't even follow the minimal rules for a "financial institution." There's no need for us to promote the company in any way. That

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There's an "Statement of Uncontroverted Facts in Support of Plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission" (case document 79-2) available, but you have to go to Pacer to get it. This comes from depositions of Owen Laurent: "According to Mr. Laurent, he and his father own the Banc de Binary Group.

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SpotOption offers several levels of affiliation. There's "white label", where they're just a service provider. Then there's SpotOption Exchange, where SpotOption Exchange takes the financial risk and the front organization just drives traffic to them. Banc de Binary is on the SpotOption Exchange

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I hsve no problem with giving the regulatory issues more prominent play. In fact, if that's what you want, y'all can revert my edits and restore all the stuff I removed from the lead. I was bending over backwards to be fair, and I see that far from being pleased by my removal of all that text from

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BDB is a Fraud company and has been cheating people worldwide including me, I have been cheated 15,000 USD in October 2016. I have filed a case against them with Israel police and Cyprus Police along with Israel Security Authority. BDB is unethical company and makes money by cheating people in the

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their unit in the Seychelles. The CFTC also says that corporation has an office in Israel. The Seychelles address, "106 Premier Building Victoria, Seychelles" is also the address of a large number of other businesses and a service for setting up an offshore business. It appears to be a mail drop

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I've received an off-Knowledge email from Hetherington. But the Daily Mail's email system added "This e-mail and any attached files are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information, which may be confidential and legally privileged and also protected by copyright." So I can't post

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When are we going to add the detail about Banc de Binary's attempt to pay someone $ 10k to edit, which hit the press, into the article. Has Sarah Fenwick really left the company, she still seems to be making ahead of the week video reports for them. Can the company really be described as Cypriot

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on the basis this is not what the source says (suggesting original research/synthesis), and that in any case, the Daily Mail is not generally considered a reliable source (per discussions above). If there are any objections or someone would like to provide revised wording and sourcing, please list

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This is not especially complicated nor controversial. Brokerages frequently have related enterprises and they function as one entity, with different corporations in different jurisdictions. "Formerly" in the lead is not correct. I don't know why this was not done, but it appears to be a product of

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The thing is, a financial firm just can't announce that they are closing - it is literally the last thing they want to do. Such an announcement makes their customers nervous and they all want to withdraw their money at the same time, i.e. they'll be causing a "banc run". As far as "will they be

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I'm quite happy to mainly leave this to editors with more experience of the topic and knowledge of source material which can be used, but as it stands, the minimum that needs to be done is the sentence containing the word "stolen" needs to be changed to remove the word stolen and to say something

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I feel uncomfortable making statements like this with only one source. I tried and I can't find anything else regarding this particular issue. If this was more than an isolated incident this would have garnered more coverage. I tried looking for mentions of Lloyds TSB and Banc De Binary and found

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how about "Banc De Binary is or was a Cypriot and Israeli financial firm with a history of regulatory issues on four continents. On January 9, 2017 a company official announced that the company would be closing because of "consistently negative press" coverage. "It's just not worth the tarnished

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went into bankruptcy while operating web sites as if nothing was wrong.) "Announced going out of business" might be more appropriate. We also don't know yet whether this is a clean shutdown with refunds, or a "disappear, take the money and run" deal. Winding this down is going to take a while.

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I have consolidated all the negative stuff about this company into the "regulatory issues" section. Now, there is no question that this company is notable because of its negative news. I am fully acquainted with the fact that it is barred from doing business in the United States. I know that the

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I don't think I'm telling you all anything you don't already know or understand, but Banc de Binary, as they're now banned, will be channelling complaints through administrators/OTRS volunteers, and they're likely to continue to flag up every part of the article which doesn't say what they would

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Okay, so the "former" is probably incorrect, though it leads me to another question. Is the article is about the corporate entity known as Banc De Binary (organized in Cyprus), or about the collective enterprise that the Cypriot corporation—as well as the Israeli and Seychellois organizations—do

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That's a court order by a judge, not a filing. It reflects what the SEC, the CFTC, and the Federal courts were able to determine. If any of that was wrong, Banc De Binary had a chance to correct it before that order was issued. So that can be treated as a reliable source. I suggest updating the

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Right. Knowledge can and should follow the investigative reporting, the lawsuits, and such. If courts and the press say it's a scam, that should be prominently mentioned. But as a secondary source, we have to follow, not lead, in this. However, we could revise the lede so that the bad stuff is

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I agree all relevant aspects of the lawsuit need to covered. I do believe, however, that there's more to the subject and therefore its article. The company appears to have legal standing in the European Union, for example, and there's information available about its dealings, etc. Words such as

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I agree that "stolen" needs to go, because it's not in the source. Frankly I think it would have been taken out already if the article was unprotected. I've asked for that, as the reason the article was protected was because of edit warring with BDB socks and corporate accounts, and all are now

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Does anybody know how to get that page properly archived by the usual services? I'd hate to see Finance Magnates disappear and BdB rising from the dead like in an old horror movie. I'll point out something like a prediction I made above about them just disappearing and reappearing as another

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Paid editing problems for this article go much beyond that, however. The subject of the article has signed a settlement, which has been approved by the court, paying about $ 11 million to settle the charges *and* agreeing not to solicit US customers *even indirectly*. I believe that removing

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Hey there! This was done as part of my copy edit specified above, which is still ongoing. The section seemed big enough to warrant a separate article, especially considering the sources available and therefore the case's notability. It's over 30% of the article by word count in case you didn't

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I've done a bit of reorganizing. As I see it, the main problem was that there was a big chunk of text in the lead describing BDB's regulatory travails. In my opinion that was just banging them over the head too much. So I replaced with a summary sentence and moved it to the "regulatory issues"

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Since the two are connected, then the customer complaint can be moved to that section but as just that - a complaint, and that BDB denied it. That gives the regulatory statement meaning. However, there would have to be a direct connection between the two. As you can see, there is considerable

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I think we need to have more of the "negative stuff" in the lede. This outfit has been booted out of the US and two Canadian provinces for operating illegally, and is facing significant financial penalties if (when) they lose their lawsuit with the CFTC and SEC. That needs to be prominently

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I understand where you're coming from, but the edit/change is in response to a complaint we have received, and it has merit (if it didn't, I wouldn't be here). The word "stolen" does not appear in the reference source so it cannot appear in the sentence in the article that is sourced to the

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Even for the aspects of the case for which this holding might be a secondary source, I do not believe we can call it reliable. Judicial opinions have little if any editorial (as opposed to judicial) oversight, and in my experience sections on background facts are highly prone to containing

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Saying that these elements are "standard pieces of information" does not mean that we have to include them. BTW, this organization does host illegal materials. They are closed down in the US without a trial, only because they will not come to the US to give depositions and face trial.

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That statement needs work, not deletion. How about this: "Investigations by the British Daily Mail newspaper journalist Tony Hetherington in 2013 and 2014 alleged losses by two clients of Banc de Binary. One client alleged that Banc de Binary had made unauthorized withdrawals from his

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Was there any reason why not simply undelete the 7 deleted edits in the article history? Just curious, since you and I both have the ability to do that. My feeling is, if the article exists and would survive AFD, then all the history should be available unless it's clearly a copyvio.

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shutdown by ACORN and the Australian Police. Banc De Binary have now posted on their home page that they no longer offer services to Australians (after their affiliate was shut down and they were trading in Australia without permission) which you have mentioned in the wiki already.

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section. Also I put "products and services" first, so that readers understand what these folks do. Then I merged the "regulation" section, which wasn't necessary and simply needed to be part of the "history" section. There are other issues as well, such as jargon and dense writing.

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reference, to have it there is original research or synthesis, which we don't permit. If there's a source which says BdB has stolen money, then add that instead. There have been long standing concerns about the reliability of the Daily Mail source, with extensive discussions at the

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The Daily Mail isn't generally considered a reliable source, is there another source to supplement or replace the DM which could be used ? BDB also insist they and not Lloyds TSB refunded the money of the first client, is there anything to support that, that you're aware of ?

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along the lines of "a customer complained that BdB withdrew funds from their account without their authority". As I said earlier, if there is another reliable source that specifically states BdB stole money, then add that reference and don't worry about changing the sentence.

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I'm not at all against leaving it as is for awhile. But I do think that if BDB cannot remove this article or confuse the issues here, they will eventually just go on with a new company, with a new name (but likely the same offices, same software, same owner, same tactics)

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Also I should mention that I removed the NPOV tag as there was no talk page discussion to justify it. I think that removing the block of text in the lead on their regulatory issues actually helps a lot in that regard. If anyone wants to of course they can reinstate the tag.

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There's no need for a separate article. All that will do is remove some info from this page where people will see it. I don't think BdB is notable for anything else. They ran a scam in the US, got caught, and lost the slam-dunk lawsuit. The lawsuit info belongs here.

5939: 5305:. Anyone new to editing this article should read that. At one point, the company offered $ 10,000 to anyone who could "fix" the article to not be so critical. Thus, there's a degree of suspicion associated with edits that delete verified negative info about the company. 4673:

You're right. It's helpful, though, to try to fix dead links, rather than just flagging them. If the content is in the Internet Archive, you can add "archiveurl" and "archivedate" tags to the citation template, which will fix the link by redirecting to an archived copy.

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We have found that a number of forums have removed posts about Banc De Binary and are obviously affiliated with them. We are an independent organisation who are helping people fight fraud. We have also managed to have one of Banc De Binarys affiliates here in Australia

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Actually, it's a bit of a trick website. Americans can ultimately get through if they try hard enough, So we seem to be helping them break the law. And this site is where they find their victims. So it seems like we're helping to rip off our readers. No thanks!

5504:. He's writing about options with lives of 30-90 days. He has several chapters on binary option theory. This is advanced material even for finance professionals. Maybe we should just send readers to Talib's book for theory. Incidentally, the theory issue applies to 2033:, for instance, the multiple judicial opinions in that case differed significantly in the dimensions of the ships, the amount of contaminant that was spilled, and in the treatment of other simple facts... and when compared to the NTSB accident report, they all had 5259:

back in August were an example of that. Going through the article as it stands I'm inclined to observe the most glaring issues being poor quality sources and prose. I do not see widespread promotional issues or other common symptoms of paid editing, do you? Best,

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Well I don't know what you mean by "skepticism," but let's discuss what you think the problems are. Reviewing the article it worried me that we were putting so much on the regulatory issues in the lead. but I have an open mind on the subject. Maybe I overdid it.

3347: 5809:"Was" may be premature. Their site is still up. Via an EU proxy, "Enter the world of Binary Options Trading with a few simple steps. Open an Account with Banc De Binary today" appears. Their alternate site, "bbinary.com", is still up as if nothing is wrong. 6091:. "OWNERSHIP DISCLOSURE: This domain is owned and operated by Ash Ltd. and its affiliated Company to Aster Services Ltd. with Incorporation number: 204033843 address: Sofia 1463, Sofia District, Bulgaria." Also, "© 2017 Ash Ltd. (St. Vincent, Grenadyny)" 6222:

I don't see a need for me to quit editing this article entirely however. Somebody put a tag in recently about the woman who was still owed $ 180,000 on the closing date. The ref was one sentence down, so I just copied that ref at the end of the tagged

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Regards, Mendaliv. The court has stated everything correctly (except the relatively immaterial founding date), as this order comes after we had the CFTC amend its incorrect information. This document is also the sister of the document we recommended when

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FM is already in use in the article. The BdB editors used it. I think of it as self-sourced info, it has to be used carefully, and it shouldn't be used for self-promotion, but it can be used. Something like quoting a KKK website to show that they are

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So far as I've been viewing articles on leaprate.com for the past year or so, I have no reason to believe they are an unreliable source. Their reporting is actually pretty good, IMO. That infographic article would be appropriate for an external link.

5212:. Unfortunately these pages have had lots of paid editing (both declared and undeclared) and lots of disruption has resulted from that. Just one possible example is the edits to the article in August 2016 made by SPAs who got themselves banned. 3414:

Oh and I took out a line in which the Daily Mail calls them a "betting parlor" or something like that. This is a tabloid and I'm not comfortable with using their characterizations. We have a description from the WSJ already and that will suffice.

6041: 5381:, and per-company scam info is in the company article. Let's see what happens over the next year. The crackdown is intensifying since the Times of Israel expose. The lawsuits and prosecutions in Israel have just started; no court decisions yet. 2542:

This talk page is insane. All of the crud introduced by COI editors and responses by volunteers retards the improvement of this article. What's the best way to at least get a respite (6 months?) from the depradations of the COI's? Back to ANI?

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In some ways, the company is worse than the Knowledge article indicates. The Times of Israel series, "The Wolves of Tel Aviv", while not specific to Banc de Binary, gives an overview. 97% of binary option customers lose all their

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be one of them. But I do think that we need to consider carefully a reduction in the size, perhaps omitting some details, of all the negative stuff. Also, as a side issue, we need to fix some of the jargon and wordiness. Comments?

3764:. There are six back-end providers in the binary options business, with SpotOption by far the largest, with 148 of the 248 known binary option "brokers". (A previous big player was iOption, but they shut down in November, 2013. 4797:

for the official website and leave it blank. That said, I would say leave the URL up there. It does give the reader in the US some useful information - they played fast and loose with the rules and are paying the penalty.

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I don't think one can make that kind of sweeping judgment about the Daily Mail. It is indeed used as a source and I have myself. BDB's side of the story is situated within the article and it can be adjusted to reflect that.

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The court documents aren't that clear, and some key ones are under seal for now. Updating the article is probably premature, unless there's more press coverage. The case is moving forward to trial some time next year.

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A reliable source is one that has a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. Wellllll Daily Mail continues to do a fairly good job on a very regular basis of assuring that they do not establish such a reputation. --

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model doesn't really apply to options with lives measured in minutes or hours; the terms related to the time value of money all have insignificant effect. See "Dynamic Hedging: Managing Vanilla and Exotic Options" by

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The content of this article has been derived in whole or part from Banc De Binary. Permission has been received from the copyright holder to release this material . Evidence of this has been confirmed and stored by

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that it deserved some more prominence. I'm not sure we do need to condense the regulatory issues section much; AFAICT from the outcome of previous AFDs, the company is only notable because of its regulatory issues.

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We have set up a website to assist people who have been harmed by Banc De Binarys fraudulent activities and have also written a guide to assist them in recovering their funds through chargebacks with their banks.

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distorted the passage so as to make it say that the journalist claimed BdB took that money from his own account, rather than from some other anonymous complainant. I've removed the sentence for the time being.

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New news item just today. London Daily Mail, "‘I've been naive and stupid': Mother's agony after losing £12.5k through an 'absolute zero-risk' online share trading site to pay for her sons to go to university"

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returning the customers' money?" well I doubt they will be paying the $ 2-$ 3 million that they still owe from the $ 11 million SEC fine. Can you believe that the SEC let them pay on the installment plan?

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has a bill in the works to crack down on the binary option industry; under current law it's OK to scam people in other countries from Israel, which is becoming an international political embarrassment to

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nothing but this story. I found it in several of the Daily Mail subsidiaries, but it was all the same story. I say get rid of it. If we find something more to support the story we can always put it back.

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There seems to be a problem with the lede sentence. It says regulatory issues on two continents but I count at least four: Europe (Cyprus), North America (Canada and U.S.), Australia and Asia (Israel).

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So now we have a reliable source. BdB claims to be offering refunds. But they're still in existence as they wind down. What seems to have prompted this were hearings last week for a committee of the

5359:- there is now lots of info on these - and then just have Banc de Binary redirect to that article. It is, when all is said and done, the biggest in the industry and the poster child of the scammers. 2654:

It was discussed above, in the context of the WSJ article. I see that AJAM and Slate picked up and repeated the WSJ article, with credit, not really adding much. But yes, definitely, worth mentioning.

2121:. The companies collectively do business as “Banc de Binary". Banc de Binary was founded by Oren Shabat Laurent, a 29 year old (as of 2014) American and Israeli citizen who lives on the outskirts of 5338:. That's mostly about SpotOption, which is Banc de Binary's back end service provider. Incidentally, we now seem to have enough reliable sources to improve the article on SpotOption, so I did that. 5040:

Someone put a {{split}} tag in the article, proposing splitting out the SEC/CFTC litigation which forced BdB out of the US market. They didn't start a discussion, so I created this location for it.

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The second problem is some programing trick that makes this link uneditable. Since I can't edit it - I've removed the whole box. If anybody can explain the programing trick, please let me know.

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Or drop it to semi- now. Whether it's unprotected now or in a few days doesn't make much difference I guess. I asked at WP:RPP and was referred to the protecting administrator, who seems off-wiki.

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There are now two alleged victims, so I'm leaning toward saying that the Mail reported two customers losing sums deposited there, and that BDB denied wrongdoing. I wouldn't go much beyond that.

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World Finance was an enabler of Banc De Binary, via its vanity awards and consequent promotion of such. Although World Finance's own WP article has been deleted, the article for its publisher

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Binary is not permitted to offer its binary option products to U.S. residents without registering with those agencies." The rest of the screen is whited out and there is now way to access it.

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side-banned. Without them breathing down the necks of volunteers, I think that all article issues can now be amicably addressed, including this one. However I do think semiprotection is wise.

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Yes, Ms. Fenwick has left. Her company Jazz Arts & Communications Ltd is producing BDB's videos. The latest video confirms that she is presenting and that it is produced by her company. ~

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Case settled. Court order issued. BdB to pay $ 11 million in restitution and penalties. US customers get refunds. Owen Lawrent pays a personal penalty. Good WSJ source. Added to article.

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at ¶¶ 4). Although Banc de Binary’s affiliates are incorporated in Israel and the Republic of Seychelles, the companies collectively do business as “Banc de Binary.” (Id . at ¶¶ 4, 13–15).

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Since the BDB team is very concerned with their corporate structure being described correctly, here is the text from a court order from the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada:

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the claim that they're all the same company, such as "which the United States SEC has argued includes X, Y and Z". I know that specific wording sucks, but I think that might be better. —/

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don't think there's anything promotional about including a link, a screenshot, and a logo—those are standard pieces of information included in many Knowledge articles about websites. —

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But not to the size it formerly had, which also was problematic by not summarizing what was in the body of the article. In fact, I moved it wholesale without causing any duplication.

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That lucid, plain-language document is clearly usable. It also is important in understanding BDB's motivation to dominate this article, its talk page and allied Knowledge processes.

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As for where the Globes piece should go: good point. There may simply not be enough to sustain two articles, and that might be giving the subject more attention than it deserves.

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Most of the references are either deadlinks or do not verify the claims. Some are not even a RS. I have tagged such links so it needs an expert attention to fix these references.

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A 2013 investigation by the British Daily Mail newspaper journalist Tony Hetherington alleged that one client had $ 25,000 stolen from his bank account after signing up with them.

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This is an excellent source. It is clearly independent of the subject, clearly reliable, and as an impartial summary of primary sources, it's equally clearly a secondary source

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the lead, a BDB editor squawked on his user page that my perfectly reasonable summary sentence was no good. That has kind of dampened my enthusiasm for bending over backwards.

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making an issue of linking the corporations up. I'm skimming the docket sheet for anything useable, but I doubt there'll be much of anything. If possible, it might be best to

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By the way, I recall seeing in one of the BDB rep's walls o' text an objection to the lead sentence referring to the company as "Israeli-Cypriot". Should we remove Israeli? ~

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Yes, something small. And no, certainly no reason for you to quit editing the article (except as it concerns your own editing, and even that is just an excess of caution).

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SpotOption claims 70% of the binary option market. SpotOption would be worth an article if we could find out more about them. Here's an informal overview of the industry.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20131101153835/http://www.investing.com/brokers/banc-de-binary/interviews/banc-de-binary-ceo-oren-laurent-opens-up-on-binary-options-169615

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Another Banc de Binary client reported being unable to withdraw funds from Banc de Binary. After being contacted by Hetherington, Banc de Binary refunded the money.

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BdB is not "closed down in the US without a trial". They're in court, and have been since at least July of 2013, when the first injunction against them was issued.

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is not a reliable source, but with publicity like that from their friends, BdB was not long for this world. (though do be prepared for an attack of the zombies).

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Smallbones is drawn to edit Knowledge articles about financial fraud because the topic interests him. But he regrets that it took at least three years to get the

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would be a gross disservice to our readers. This is up to a consensus of the editors here, of course. There are no rules that say we *must* include this info.

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Despite the announcements of closure and the departure from BDB Tower, the BDB web site is up as if nothing is wrong. Their blog doesn't mention a shutdown.

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Also, I've asked User:HistoryofRecenttimes to voluntarily stand down from the talk page. We don't need partisans from either side breathing down our necks.

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alleged that Banc de Binary withdrew $ 25,000 from a British customer's bank account without authorization and refused to return the money when challenged.

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I've redirected the forked page to this article's page. If the fork is needed according to consensus, then we can just revert back before the redirect.

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Huh. Well, in that case, maybe we should include the screenshot, in order to illustrate the appearance of the website for readers who can't access it. —

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material from this article could be viewed as as indirectly soliciting US customers. In short paid editing of this article is a real can of worms.

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illegally in the United States, (and lying about their location) and they were caught. I'm tempted to revert that whole block of edits. Comments? --

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I certainly wouldn't mind something very short, but it's not for me to say. But perhaps just a link, say under "Further reading"? How about asking

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The Cyprus Securities and Exchange Commission recently prohibited Cyprus-based binary option dealers from using "bonuses" to lock up customer funds.

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Any contributor to this article or this talk page who is paid to contribute needs to declare their paid status according to our Terms of Use. See

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In June 2014, an advertisement on a freelance employment Website offered more than $ 10,000 for "crisis management" of the BdB page on Knowledge.

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nonprejudicial errors (i.e., mistakes with the details that don't affect the outcome of the case). This can be really simple stuff... in writing

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Even the BDB team says "The court has stated everything correctly (except the relatively immaterial founding date)". So we should be done here.

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enough to merit an article. The lede already notes that they are banned from accepting customers in several countries (including Australia).

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That said, I think we should lose the two mentions of "more general warnings" about binary options trading. That's pure guilt by association.

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It looks like the court case is finishing up, and a settlement between Banc de Binary, the SEC, and the CFTC is expected by October 25, 2015.

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initiated by Roy Ogen, I have removed his name from the infobox. He no longer works there, and I confirmed this from his own LinkedIn page.

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while there is no blanket ban (yet), there is certainly also no "default reliable" - particularly on potentially controversial content.--

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initiated by Ms Fenwick. She also says she no longer works there. Her LinkedIn page confirms that this company is a past client of hers. ~

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I have to say that the general warning stuff doesn't bother me, as it puts the regulatory stance toward binary options into perspective.

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Guess I'll wait for the page protection to run out (also providing other editors with an opportunity to howl in protest). Thanks anyway.

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There seems no good reason for such a split. It's not that big a section. It was a single lawsuit and wasn't complex. It's not like

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of Daily Mail utilized as sources in various articles, especially on popular culture. I notice that it was just added as a source to

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I have made an edit to this fully-protected article because it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the full-protection dispute.

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nonprejudicial errors. Indeed, I would argue that the facts not essential to the holding in the instant order should be considered

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shareholder of ET Binary Options Ltd., BO Systems, Ltd., and BDB Services, Ltd. (Second. Amend. Compl. (#58) at ¶¶ 5, 18, 19, 31).

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Primary sources are permissable but need to be used with care. If the document doesn't require interpretation it might be OK.

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refers to it as a Cypriot company, and so does the court ruling that has been discussed. So I don't see a problem with that.

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http://www.investing.com/brokers/banc-de-binary/interviews/banc-de-binary-ceo-oren-laurent-opens-up-on-binary-options-169615

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Others may differ, but I'm not unhappy with where it is now. I will remove those "more general warnings" absent objections.

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Added link to official court-ordered refund site. (Not a soapbox; that's where US victims can file claims and get refunds.)

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In any case, don't worry, there will be stories, or at least blurbs, in a half-dozen reliable sources within a few days.

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Also I will look around for more user-friendly sourcing in this realm of article, and caveat-type stories as appropriate.

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There is a link to the company in the box here, at least when it's on the article page. There are two problems with this

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The court case is complete and a permanent injunction is in place, so text was changed to past tense where appropriate.

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The Quebec securities regulator also noted the "bonus lock-in" feature that BdB used to avoid returning customer funds.

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More than that, they seem to have left town. Reuters reports a "For Rent" sign on the BDB Tower in Ramat Gan, Israel.

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Other than Offshore Alert, no press source has picked up on this yet. So it's premature to put this in the article.

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you need to provide a specific wording, and make sure that wording has consensus, before this can be enacted. Best —

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Japan section reads as though it was written by the gambling industry - quotes of 160% returns are 'citation needed'.

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the rather poor editing atmosphere in this article, for which I regret the company has no one to blame but itself.

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No, there is absolutely no justification for a separate article. This is a minor company with a big fat SEC case.

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I'd agree that "stolen" is unwarranted. "Withdrew funds from account without authorization" is more like it. See

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Well I notice that the most recent article on the subject in a reliable secondary source referencing the company

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reputation. I don’t see how we can continue operating under such scrutiny and public image," said the official."

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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http://www.insideworldfootball.com/premier-league/17836-liverpool-land-banc-de-binary-in-new-online-trading-deal

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Wouldn't it be accurate to include in this article the informations from independent secondary sources (such as

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but I believe it. I've seen something earlier in non-reliable sources, but this looks like a reliable source:

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Such a split would separate industry info and scam info, which are closely linked. See this new Globes article.

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http://www.financemagnates.com/binary-options/brokers/liverpool-fc-signs-new-one-year-deal-with-banc-de-binary/

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So that's it. CySEC says BDB Services can't operate in Cyprus. "BDB Services Ltd" is, according to BdB itself

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I did ponder that given that I have a princely dozen words... but it seems an odd fit in any other section.

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Were that to happen, then it could be revisited. The two articles are not mutually exclusive. If there are

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There appear to have been instances of undisclosed COI editing; I'm assuming the latest string of edits by

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http://www.timesofisrael.com/wikipedia-vs-banc-de-binary-a-3-year-battle-against-binary-options-fake-news/

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So that's why anything that looks like whitewashing this company is viewed very negatively on Knowledge.

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This isn't "U.S. Knowledge". Many, many companies can't operate in the U.S. for a variety of reasons. --

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are presenting a scam as if they are in some way a normal business. That's a very harmful promotion.

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Agreed. By the way, note my addendum to the COIN report. There is a new binary options spam account.

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This article had some of the worst COI problems in Knowledge history. See, as Smallbones points out,

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https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/3k268e/liverpool_fc_agree_new_partnership_with_banc_de/

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I think that is a much more cogent argument than the question of legality in certain jurisdictions.

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Please change the logo from 'Banc de Binary logo.gif' to 'Banc de Binary Logo.svg'. Thanks McMetrox

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Banc de Binary is at the top of the list. SpotOption at least hosts the sites and runs the back end.

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say they are the same company or entity, but the same enterprise or group. My edit request appears

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Settlement period extended to the end of 2015, per Justia. No resolution yet; case still pending.

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I don't quite think we have consensus yet, but it's a lot closer now than it was a few weeks ago.

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Not seeing anything on Liverpool FC's own web site about this. Here's their official merchandise.

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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template

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There have been a few sources noting that Banc De Binary has started to sponsor Liverpool F.C:

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implied above, then so be it. It's not Knowledge's intent to fight nor promote such entities.

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Then there's this: "CySec issues warning to investors about Banc De Binary ancillary website"

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Indeed, but now we have multiple sourcing, with the Reuters article, so that's that I guess.

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Given the history, I'd say drop to semi-protection when full protection runs out on July 3.

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Since there has been no reporting of the previous socks, I don't see that we can get it in.

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doesn't have a screenshot. None of the big brokerages seem to have a screenshot, not even

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Reading the article, I would rewrite the sentence as: A 2013 investigation by the British

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Could we have a short sentence about this in? It seems to have been uncontroversial here.

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access the page in the screenshot. Is there reason to believe that some readers can't? —

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Not worth a mention in the article yet, but worth following for future developments.

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I have inserted a phrase into the lead referring to them being charged; I agree with

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Agree. $ 10K's a bit special compared to the usual army of minimum-wage freelancers.

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a factual nature that does not require interpretation, so I think passes the test in

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I can also reduce the protection level to semi if there is a consensus to do that. ~

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A copy of the article as it existed in January 2013 has been posted (noindexed) to

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Correction: that's not new. That address has been on the site for at least a year.

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The link to the Missouri gambling site is now out of date and needs to be updated.

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Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran

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That seems too general. Right now, the general binary option scams are under

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I can make consensus-based edits to the protected article, as I have above.

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does, but it's not identified as a specific company. So why should BdB?

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Something went wrong here. Amatulic's edit in response to this request

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binary option scams, why not simply create such an article right now?

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Still no word on the unprotection. It only has until July 3 anyway.

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They've taken the letters "BDB Tower" off the building's entrance.

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The History of Binary Options Trading – Infographic JANUARY 5, 2017

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There are similar complaints about BdB on scam-oriented blog sites.

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Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People

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Either they are back, or someone is using the name and logo again.

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to some extent above; if they "just go on with a new company" as

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I propose new section at the bottom, "Paid Editing of Knowledge":

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name of investments. Please beware of this money making scams

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bank account. Lloyds TSB agreed and refunded the client's money.

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and my proposed extended in-text description appears within the

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One possibility here is to move this article to something like

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There's another article by Tony Hetheringdon of the Daily Mail.

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In the same edit I removed Sarah Fenwick also, per OTRS ticket

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I see from what the IP added that Knowledge, and our very own

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notice, and the article I put forward is significantly tidier.

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Promotional text from questionable sources? I don't think so.

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Note: This talk section is limited to volunteer editors only.

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And I should add that BDB accounts are site banned per ANI

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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I can't see this as a separate section. Maybe a sentence.

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contributors may be personally or professionally connected

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Tag the talk pages of Gambling-related articles with the

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I'm OK with the logo but the screenshot is unnecessary.

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Yes, I would suggest leaving it be for the time being.

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I've also archived but if anyone objects <sigh: -->

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PACER link (pay) for the actual settlement document.

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tag were used. Fortunately I am monitoring this page.

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