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person I saw was alex's dad, bill bruford, on his own. I struck up conversation with him & watched the band with him, both of us clutching pints & cigs. those were different times. fallout from this meeting, btw, was the video release of bruford senior's "rock goes to college" appearance, which I told him I'd got a copy of via a mate at the bbc; we exchanged details (bb gave me his business card) so I could get a vhs to him & when he'd recovered from his "embarrassment", it was licensed to voiceprint. someone will be along in a minute to tidy this up & tell me (again) that this is not what talk pages are for. do us a favour- wind your neck in, go do some tidying where it's really needed.
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Yes that what i meant to write, by wikipage i'm talking about the page Bill
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many dinner parties. despite all that, it's a decent enough album. the bassist on it is one jon astrop, later an associate of mark shreeve, & co-writer with him of the samantha fox hit 'touch me'. didn't see that coming, did you?
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Bruford recorded a vinyl album called In search of ancients gods with the band Absolute elsewhere (look on prog archives)but at as been erease from is wikipage can somebody tell me why ?
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with contemporary composer Colin Riley, who is currently collaborating with Bruford, which may provide some useful material for this article. I didn't want to add it myself given my COI.
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