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I've read that there actually were two
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History of Wales uses Gruffydd, for Gruffydd ap Cynan and Gruffydd ap Llywelyn. Davies in history of Wales uses both Gruffydd for Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, and Gruffudd for Gruffudd ap Cynan. I encountered the name via Lloyd and favor Gruffydd myself, but defer to
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England who granted him the rule of LlĹ·n, Eifionydd, Ardudwy and Arllechwedd, considerably extending his kingdom.". Now that cunningly fails to mention what G ap C gave Henry, ie Henry agreed to come under the Crown in exchange for
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