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wasn't born in Ireland. But nobody refers to Raheem Sterling as a Jamaican or Erling Haaland as an Englishman because they have the accents of their representative countries. Whatever citizenship he legally holds is not important, this isn't a discussion about if he's an immigrant or not. He chose to represent the USA in football so if we're talking about David Wagner the footballer, we're talking about an American.
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doesn't affect his actual nationality. We have a long string of footballers who have played for the Republic of Ireland through family connections but it doesn't make them Irish. The key features are that he was born in Germany of a German mother, brought up in Germany, has worked only in Europe. The
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I would also like to add that this discussion is embarrassing because you're treating him like the only footballer ever to not play for the country of his birth. I've never seen a player's nationality so hotly contested as Wagner. The only reason anyone doubts it is his accent. Correct, Harry Arter
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There has been consensus that nationality is relevant to his notability (as a national team player). So yes, playing for the national team does affect his actual nationality. Especially since three of his eight USMNT appearances were World Cup qualifying matches. –
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is British. The fact that he played for the Republic football team doesn't make him Irish. Nationality is changed through the relevant immigration authorities not by playing for a sporting team.
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Just wanted to say, but the above decision is absolutely, ridiculously embarrassing. The sport is football, no matter how hard you might try to make it be called soccer.
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US connection is that his father is American but the balance surely is to give his European connections precedence.
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There is actually no such thing as a 'fifa nationality'. Having played for
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