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explanation of the true meaning of the term Diabetes and could serve to provide interesting information to people that they might otherwise never discover. Also since wikipedia may sometimes be the first point of reference for many people it is important that the articles reflect the true range of conditions falling under the umbrella of diabetes.
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I have added these to the diabetes hypoglycemia page but I thoguh I would also add them here. As a diabetic myself who has not suffered symtpms of hypglycemia for years except for a slightly depressed nature and inability tmo fall asleep, I think it should be noted that a loss of symptoms can occure
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that can either be Mellitus or insipidus because the redirect can serve to reinforce the impression that Diabetes is Synonymous with diabetes mellitus. I know that it might appear to be a minor distinction but i think it is important to the educational value of Knowledge that there be some
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Rationale: It doesn't seem to make sense that the Diabetes page redirects straight to Diabetes Mellitus. I know that there is a short section on insipidus in the mellitus page but it would be more logical if it were explained that Diabetes refers to a syndrome characterised by
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I think that the treatment reccomended for diabetes related hypoglycemia is too low. (4-5 ounces of regular soda) As much as 300 ml or a full can and a snakck sized piece of confectionary can be required to raise a persons blood sugar level to an acceptable level.
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Doctors tend to write DM Type I/II, NIDDM/IDDM or just DM. In my experience, doctors (including yours truly) don't tend to write down just 'diabetes' in their casenotes. I presume this is to avoid the potential confusion with diabetes insipidus.
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on a patient's notes if they were only urinating excessively (polyuria). If they did they'd get a lawsuit (or struck off the register) if there was a problem that resulted from confusion with DM. They'd tend to write IDDM or NIDDM wouldn't they?
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I think this redirect is appropriate - if our sources indicate that common usage of 'diabetes' is synonymous with 'diabetes mellitus' we reflect that here. However, I have added a hatnote to
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of the two diabetes mellitus is the most common and if the term Diabetes is used unqualified it usually refers to Diabetes Mellitus
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Could the article be unprotected and the redirect replaced with some text to the effect of the following (Rationale follow).
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I concur. It makes sense that we redirect to the most common usage. If you want to take this further you might try
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which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —
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I don't mind the page too much how it is now though, it's just inconvenient for the pages linking here.
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articles linking to this page. I'll start on changing them to go there. (though not all today)
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template, marking the redirect as suitable for a printed version of Knowledge (see
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While wikipedia should acknowledge common jargon, it should also be accurate. --
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template is just a new and better way to add redirect category templates (
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Diabetes is a collection of conditions characterised by
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