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Well, yes, but there's MUCH bigger influences. Fritz Leiber, Shakespeare, Lovecraft (Dungeon
Dimensions, Auditors) Death's Godson (Think that's the name. The fairy tale Mort's based around, with significant expansion and changes, aye.) Can't call something a pastiche if it never takes
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My only quibble is that I don't believe that the axle was a gift from the Low King -- Vetinari seized it by
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