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1649:) In fact in 1998 the United States Supreme Court accepted the final map and New York was granted jurisdiction to 4.68 acres. This area includes almost all of the Main Immigration Building as well as portions of the Wall of Honor, baggage handling/dormitory building, power house and administration building (Figure 10). The New York portion of Ellis Island is landlocked, enclaved within New Jersey's territory. New Jersey has sovereign authority over the remaining 22.80 acres of the island that includes portions of the above buildings, the ferry house, and all of the 29 hospital and dormitory buildings located on the southern portion of the island. 578: 641: 845: 956: 824: 740: 719: 987: 855: 750: 498: 471: 1090: 1221: 1200: 508: 233: 334: 1317: 1299: 1744:
Lawrence L.Thornton and John M.Tyrawski. All three are experts of geography and above all coming from New Jersey, not NYC... The figure 10 illustrates the exact boundaries of NYC and NY State enclave in the New Jersey State on the Ellis Island. The last summer I went at Ellis Island National Museum of Immigration in the Main Building and it is in NYC and therefore in the NY State (to see the official site
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This suggests that Jewish immigrants were largely from Southern and Eastern Europe. In fact, the largest number came from the Russian Empire, which indeed included much of southern and eastern Europe, but vast numbers of Jews had come in the "at first" period: from places now in Lithuania, Poland and
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From the "Immigration procedures" section: "At first, the majority of immigrants arriving were Northern and Western Europeans, with the largest numbers coming from the German Empire, the Russian Empire and Finland, the United Kingdom, and Italy. Eventually, these groups of peoples slowed in the rates
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The U.S. Supreme Court issued its final decree and approved the boundary line as mapped by the NJDEP on May 17, 1999. The Ellis Island case represented the first use of GIS to present and implement a boundary dispute before the U.S. Supreme Court. The authors of this article are Richard G.Castagna,
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in the ELLIS ISLAND GEOGRAPHY paragraph) while the Baggage-Dormitory is only for a small porzion in the NY State. Instead in the actual maps on Wiki, if you see the dotted parts, it is exactly the opposite! In addition in these 2 maps there is also another error. In fact it there isn't a L shaped
1642:) In both the maps the dotted boundaries of the NY enclave in the NJ State are wrong. In fact these maps IGNORE that the two states jointly negotiated a post-trial settlement for minor changes in 1999 to decide exactly where and how to draw the lines in accordance with the Supreme Court decision. 1713:) The fundamental thing isn't to put my 2 maps (after a great hard work I hope that it will be possible....), but to correct the wrong dotted NY/NJ boundaries in the actual maps or however to eliminate them. Do you agree? My only aim is to improve this fantastic page. 2061: 1602:
refers to Ellis Island as "Part of Statue of Liberty National Monument". To reduce confusion, only the main monument page, not its constituent parts, should have the categories "National Park Service National Monuments in..." That's why
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These maps IGNORE that the two states jointly negotiated a post-trial settlement for minor changes in 1999 to decide exactly where and how to draw the lines in accordance with the Supreme Court decision.
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By the way, I am aware that Ellis Island is sometimes referred to as "Ellis Island National Monument". However, that's not a monument on its own, but an addition to the Statue of Liberty NM in 1965. The
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We still don't have a source for that map. Figure 10 does not claim to be "The EXACT, OFFICIAL and FINAL map". Perhaps we can unscramble the website name and see what journal this was published in.
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I think that it is necessary TO REPLACE the 2 wrong maps with these 2 exact maps in this beautiful and detailed page of Wiki! Thanks for the possible correction. 02:48, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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That link is to someone's essay about how GIS is being used in a real world example. It is not an official document. The image doesn't even have a claim of authorship. Who drew that map?
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I hope that it will be possible to post them also on this page (to put the first photo and above all to use the second photo to replace the wrong actual photo).
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In the meanwhile is it possible to replace these 2 maps (but also the first of the 2 maps in the New Jersey v. New York page) with these 2 my maps (
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They may be better than what we have but we probably need a better source. The second map you call 100% correct clearly states "Not to scale".
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I have read with much attention the question about the NY/NJ territorial division of the 1998 and I have noted 2 wrong maps on this page (
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is the creator of the two maps at ibb.co and uploads them to Commons, or if some other better map comes along, we can replace it.
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Belarus, all in the Russian Empire and definitely not in southern Europe. Will try to come up with a more felicitous expression.
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this is part of a national monument, not a separate national monument called "Ellis Island National Monument". As per
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After some working days I corrected the wrong maps on this page of wiki and these are the 100% exact new maps:
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that they were coming in, and immigrants came in from Southern and Eastern Europe, including Jews."
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In the meantime, I've replaced the first incorrect map with the public domain NPS map. If
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I am very happy that after my suggestions also OpenStreetMap has fixed the error:
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I have corrected caption to correspond with decision. Natural island was smaller.
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:New_York_City_enclave_in_Ellis_Island.png
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Can someone to replace the wrong maps with these 2 new exact maps? Thanks.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Ellis_Island#/media/File:EllisIslandMapOSM.png
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The EXACT, OFFICIAL and FINAL map is the FIGURE 10 in this document (
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These are the 2 exact maps of the NYC enclave in Ellis Island
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The EXACT and FINAL map is the FIGURE 10 in this document (
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also no longer is categorized as a national monument, but
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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