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that the record of this profane early vandalism and its reversal (its vocabulary is recognizable, but bots did not find it, that I remember) has been expunged from the History page as of today (in the last 20 minutes). We need an admin to stop this mobile IP vandal, but with the blanking of the vandal's several earlier edits, this may be a challenge. The vandal has posted on other pages, including possibly one constructive edit under an IP containing "3" or "13") in its first characters, but definitely 90% unconstructive, and 100% unconstructive and profane re Evan McMullin. Admin help needed. And, do WP's bots recognize "cuck"?--
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Brazil.. Similarly, there's no mention of when he worked as a Volunteer Refugee Resettlement Officer in any of the cited sources. The timeframe of his BYU attendance listed on his Linkedin account seems to support him going on his mission before college, and explicitly shows his UN time to be during or just after. --
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The problem was not the wording. The problem was the addition of a completely irrelevant and gratuitous detail, which I have now removed. The subject of the article is Evan McMullin, not his parents and their private lives. McMullin's mother marrying a woman should not be mentioned in a section about
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The mobile IP vandal using profane edits against Evan McMullin is back.The attacks on this page seem to have started in mid-April of this year, (they and their "undo" edits just disappeared from the History page) with a "handoff" to another IP address during the first attack. I am startled to notice
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The sequence of events at the start of the career section seems to be slightly off. In the 1990s, young LDS men in the United States typically started their missions at age 19, not after completing college. Also, none of the sources sited said when he completed his misssion, just that he served in
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This article is poorly sourced. I have counted no fewer than 15 claims that need evidentiary substantiation, but this is lacking here. Also, many of these claims read as internal dialogue and motivation rather than a reporting of facts. For instance, it is claimed that McMullin ran against HRC in
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I see that the History page has been unrestored, and the edits concerning recent vandalism are not visible now. I am trying to figure out what happened during the recent vandalism attacks, and what I see on the History page is vacillating between two different versions of the history. Is this
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Does the encouragement of "adoption, even if they may have different opinions on abortion rights" indicate that McMullin supports adoptions by gay couples and singles? If yes, the wording from the agemda could be translated here into better comprehensible representation.
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I would like to get rid of the part saying McMullin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. The CFR boasts nearly 5,000 members, making membership alone not that notable. Additionally, I took a look at the membership roster on CFR's website, and he's not on it.
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They do not warrant mention in a section about his personal life. Someone using something McMullin's mother did to attack him is not a fact about McMullin's personal life. One might argue that they belong somewhere else in the article; I'm not sure I'd mention it at all.
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reported that in a telphone poll conducted on 1-~11 October 2016 EM was within statistically the same range as the two major candidates for the US presidency in a Utah poll: Clinton & Trump: 26%, EM: 22%, Johnson: 14% (no mention of Stein).
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Left-wing editors like 'Neutrality' won't allow this content and have locked me out, but in Spring, 2022, McMullin confirmed on MSNBC with Mehdi Hasan that he does not support the overturning of Roe v. Wade, contrary to his prior claims in 2016.
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It appears 'Neutrality' is adding numerous left-leaning and biased claims, some of which are unsourced. Please offer neutral facts and don't insert only those claims you support, and erase those with which you disagree. POV violations.
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It would seem that revealing this past even several years later could put contacts at risk. Here's this guy with his face all over the news. Just go back and look at all your usual suspects and see if Evan shows up with them.
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A vandal got into an edit war with trusted WP editors, editing this article. This individual reverted 3 editors sequentially, within minutes. He left a possibly South Asian word or name on one page: "closeted kaweir". See:
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I'm not wanting to sound like a conspiracy theorist here but how does one verify a claim that someone was a covert officer. Does he show 'spy' as profession on his tax return? Show pay stubs from 'Universal Import/Export'?
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I wonder if any media outlets will note that Mr. McMullin did not have a wikipedia article until he was written about in the media as a presidential candidate. thats a pretty meteoric rise in notability for a potential us
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It is assumed that the passages contained within this article are correct and properly cited. I have added this article to my watchlist, and I will verify source information as it is added to this article.
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Sorry! It may be my mistake, switching between the article and its talk page, trying to figure out the vandalism situation, with my computer crawling due to heavy traffic on my neighborhood ISP trunk.--
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The robocalls that mention this allegation have been a subject of widespread publicity in multiple reliable sources. I understand the concern but wonder if perhaps the robocalls warrant inclusion.
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It's so horrible, particularly given that his very real chance to win Utah makes him a noteworthy presidential contender. We should replace it, possibly with the one from the 2016 election page.
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and numerous others. Even though he is a public figure I would like to see consensus here before adding, and I think BLP mandates caution and an overwhelming consensus in such situations.
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Yes definitely not in his personal life section. As for elsewhere, on general principles I am opposed to Knowledge mentioning such smear tactics, but am undecided. See section below.
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I'd be happy to add this if you could provide a better source. Twitter doesn't work. Maybe there's an article somewhere? We generally don't use opinion talk shows on MSNBC either.
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candidate who may announce his candidacy for president today said to be Evan McMullin, NBCā€™s Joe Scarborough reports on Twitter, citing ā€œmultipleā€ unidentified people familiar."
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Idaho, New Mexico, Utah, Iowa, Arkansas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Colorado, Minnesota and Virginia: That is 10 states - articles says 8 - even more on the campaign page
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There is absolutely no basis for that number other than the simplistic math used by the author. I think it should be removed until further data is provided/available.
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Smear robocalls in Utah from a white nationalist have received widespread publicity, actually dominating the news cycle for a couple of days. Should we include? See
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We should change the infobox image to this. Itā€™s more recent, itā€™s clearer, and itā€™s a more flattering image to use as it shows him in a better state. Thoughts?
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At the end of the "2016 presidential campaign" section is a reference to Hilary Clinton. Please fix the spelling of her first name, which is really "Hillary."
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Agreed that it belongs on the campaign page, not here -- if it belongs at all. To weigh in on whether it should be included on the campaign page, go to
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2016 because of the latter's liberalism, but if so that needs to be sourced; otherwise it remains unsupported conjecture.
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Someone might want to move this to protected status, given he's expected to launch an independent bid for President.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-08-08/u-s-independent-presidential-candidate-said-to-be-mcmullin-nbc
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Am I the only one who feels that this page is one giant PR page for McMullin? Definitely has some POV issues.
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rumors of the run began, I believe? I could be wrong on timing but I heard about the run about 3 hours ago.--
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-agent-evan-mcmullin-launch-independent-presidential-bid/story?id=41201256
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border security and tax reform." Shouldn't it just be "border security" instead of "tax border security"?
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has been working for months on trying to select a candidate and get on ballots throughout the country"
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Neutrality is a trusted user and long-time admin here. You appear to be the one distorting citations.
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Both this photo and the current one in the article are fine with me. Do whatever you feel is best.
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thanks for the picture. It's definitely higher quality than the old one and the one used at
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Thanks to the editor who recently restored the history and my contributions re this page.--
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You could change to "McMullin has achieved ballot access in thirty four states thus far."
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I've added my own higher-resolution photo from that event, but it's still not ideal.
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Done. Changed to match the campaign article, which is well-sourced on this topic.
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Good point. I think BLP argues against usage hear, regardless of sourcing.
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Thanks for editing it! I wanted to but was struggling to figure it out.
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Unmarried: should that be included in a "Personal life" section?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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McMullin's personal life because that is a fact about
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conservative worked for the CIA for 11 years before"
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Talk:Evan McMullin
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-agent-evan-mcmullin-launch-independent-presidential-bid/story?id=41201256
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http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47433/who-is-evan-mcmullin/
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37012635
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