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With that said, the first edit we want to make is an important one for us with the title of the page. Four Loko is no longer an energy drink. We no longer use caffeinated ingredients in our products. Below I have pasted two news sources, as well as a link to our website that confirms this change to
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Is it just me, or has this "brand" simply sprung up out of the wood word soon-after/during the whole FDA intervening...? The "old cans" made no mention of this "brand" anywhere, NOR did the "drinkfour.com" website......now, nearly all links on "drinkfour.com" point to this "external" site, Phusion
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The unusual thing about Four is the wormwood oil. I have heard it said that Four is only legal in four states, Arkansas being one of them. Fortunately, that's where I live, so I've been able to do some first-hand experiments. It produces an unusual buzz that is subtly different from alcohol +
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The drink is popular in SE Portland, but not because of the "massive gay community." It's because of Reed
College, located in SE Portland. We loved the shit out of Four Loko, and bought metric craptons of it at the Seven-11 nearest campus until they castrated it by taking out the caffeine.
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was a show that aired from 1995 to 2004 which revolved around the life and friends of the character Drew Carey between his regular office job and his home brewery of Buzz Beer (a mixture of beer and coffee). His "Buzz Beer" was one of the central memes of the show. Is this the first
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Controversy section begins with "Several years ago". Can someone stick a more precise date in its place. Several year ago from when? From 2010? From 2000? How long ago is "several" (3, 10, 50)? The current phrase is too ambiguous and is not encyclopædic, anyway. —
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As a life long drinker of Cuba Libres, 1 part rum, 3 parts Coca Cola, 1 squirt of lime, I am aghast that the combination of alcohol and caffein has been found to so dangerous as to make it illegal. I'm guessing that russian coffees and Jack and Cokes will be next.
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