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Hungary, like the KDNP and the Our Homeland Movement party. These 3 political parties opposing the Same Sex Marriages, and the LGBT couples, who they adopting the children in Hungary. The Fidesz also opposes the LGBTQ ideology. That's why i created the
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744:) Viktor Orban said in 2020 during one of his speeches in Portugal, that âaz EU-n kĂvĂŒl is van Ă©letâ, which means that âthere is life outside the EUâ, raising concerns about the views of the Hungarian government on this topic. (
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732:) Hungary had an advertisement campaign before the 2018 general elections, with the motto âĂllĂtsuk meg BrĂŒsszeltâ, âLet's stop Brusselsâ in english, it cost 4.2 billion HUF or abozt 10.6 million US dollars. (
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728:) Viktor OrbĂĄn, the prime minister of Hungary and the president of the Fidesz said in one of his speeches: âBrĂŒsszel megtĂĄmadta MagyarorszĂĄgotâ, or âBrussels attacked Hungaryâ. (
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