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As stated above, this article is at or about GA-level so in this section I'm only really mentioning points that I consider need some attention. Sorry I'm only giving the constructive criticism here, and failing to mention all the good points. The bad points can be summarised as breadth of Scope and
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states 'In the 20th century, Bristol was in the forefront of aircraft manufacture and the city became an important financial centre. But no mention of financial services (banks and insurance), which is currently shrinking, but its been there for possibly 20 or so
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The lead gives a good build up , i.e. 'In the 20th century, Bristol was in the forefront of aircraft manufacture and the city became an important financial centre', but fails to deliver financial services and 'forefront' is barely
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This seems to start with WW II, which is fair enough, but what happened to the first half of the 20th century (and WW I)? If they are not 'modern', then perhaps we need a consideration of the first half of 20th century in another
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In the 16th century the former St Augustine abbey becomes the Cathedral, I know there were other religious orders in Bristol, friars, monks, etc, but they are entirely absent from here, where I would expect them to
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Aircraft manufacture seems to be 'dismissed' as WW II bombing, Concorde, and Airbus. No discussion of what was (is) leading edge, no mention of Rolls Royce and nothing pre- or post- BAC (well apart from the word
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The first paragraph, apart from the lack of in-line citations, is quite a nice paragraph. All the subsequent paragraphs are quite 'bitty' two or three short sentences, and could do with some improvements.
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I would have expected a 'potted' discussion of the original area of the medieval city (town) and how it grow by initially sucking in areas such as Clifton, etc, and then the 1950s/1960s estates, such as
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Its quite good as an introduction (but see next point), which is only part of its function, but it almost entirely ignores the requirement to provide a summary of the mains points of the article.
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There appears to be a lack of history between the 3rd and 8th centuries. Is this possibly through lack of evidence of settlement or occupation following the withdrawal of the Romans?
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http://www.bristol.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/planning_and_building_regulations/archaeology/Palaeolithic%20Research%20Framework%20for%20the%20Bristol%20Avon%20basin.pdf
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Your sections seem quite logical and you have covered most points (and I've suggested some improvements), but there is no mention of the growth of the city.
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Whilst the first and last paragraphs are fine, the middle paragraphs are quite 'bitty' two or three short sentences, and could do with some improvements.
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I might have missed some points and I might and got some wrong, if you disgree we can discuss it here; otherwise this is what I think is needed for GA.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20071012040602/http://www.southwestrda.org.uk/what-we-do/business-growth/inward-investment/key/financialservices-1.shtm
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THE POST OFFICE DIRECTORY OF GLOUCESTERSHIRE, HEREFORDSHIRE, SHROPSHIRE, AND THE CITY OF BRISTOL, WITH MAPS ENGRAVED ESPRESSLY FOR THE WORK
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After an initial review, this article appears to stand a reasonable change of making GA, i.e, it is not going to be 'Quick Failed'.
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A nicely referenced list of opponents to the slave trade is given, but there is no mention as to whether any were local to Bristol.
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Congratulations on the quality of the article and your work over the last few days. I'm happy to award this article GA-status.
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The comment in the 2nd para about the slave trade / brass ware 'kick starting' the Industrial revolution needs a citation.
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However, a few of the paragraphs seem to be unreferenced, or very sparsely referenced, i.e. non-compliant with
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As forecast at the start, I'm putting the article On Hold to provide time for these points to be addressed.
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I would appreciate your taking another look now - I think the points above have been addressed.
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which seems to have its origins in the mid 1970s reorganisation of local government (and
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Having worked on it, I have nominated this article for GA status. Comments welcome.
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The bridge and the Great Ditch construction in the first paragraph are unreferenced.
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listing has a few pages of background info which could be quoted in the article.
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I'm looking at these points over the next few days. Thanks for the input so far.
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Yes, in short. No written sources until shortly before the Norman conquest. ––
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The article has been considerably improved in scope over the last few days.
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and (in particular) how they cover the bits that are not in this history.
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