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2262:. The very word Apartheid is rooted in the racist policies of South Africa, and is addressed by everyone as such. People don't distinguish Apartheids apart from each other, as there is THE case of Apartheid that everyone knows when they hear it. Sure, some countries have had policies that have been compared to apartheid, and if you want to note criticism in the article, okay. But, the comparisons that people make should not change the title of the definitive case of Apartheid. Same reason why the article for Philadelphia isn't labelled Philadelphia (Pennsylvania), to distinguish it from Philly, Alabama. It is the city you think of when you hear the name Philadelphia. 823: 622: 813: 786: 413: 682: 655: 1683: 1330: 1309: 692: 942: 921: 1340: 1539: 289: 1988: 534: 455: 1152: 1131: 889: 1523: 259: 1435: 1414: 379: 336: 1639: 1241: 1220: 613: 758: 1586: 1445: 1012: 2370:
Knowledge serves as an encyclopedia, not a social media platform for expressing political views. The claim of apartheid in Israel is contested, at best. The primary topic of Apartheid is, and there's no question about it, South African Apartheid. Please don't confuse our readers with fringe political
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also defines apartheid as "systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group..." The Human Rights Watch also defines apartheid as a "universal legal term" as opposed to the history of just one country. There is also growing consensus that
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Honestly this article could use a split between "Apartheid" as in the practice and other countries that have practiced it/have been accused of practicing it, and "Apartheid South Africa"/"First Republic of South Africa" as in the regime that existed between 1961 and 1997.
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Given the recent legal ruling re Israel, editors are starting to drop sentences about it into the lead (as a pending change reviewer I’ve rejected 2 or 3 because unsourced). So now would be a good time to start talking about how this is going to develop here:
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Apartheid or "apart hood" is a South African term, which is where the ideology was created and refined. It has subsequently been (mis)attributed to other places/events, but this does not stop the South African usage being the
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Why is this page not titled: Apartheid in South Africa? The title 'Apartheid' would mean 'the concept of Apartheid' since it is non specific. Just as the page for 'Colonization' is not specific to colonization in any country
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While I think that at some point in the future that may change, for now it seems as though "Apartheid" as a proper noun refers most commonly to the long-lasting South African system, which itself was the origin of the word.
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and not South African apartheid. It would make the most sense to send Apartheid to the disambiguation page directly and not to South Africa. That way the page move does not bury Apartheid in South Africa but clarifies it.
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refers to the broader subsequent use. Having said that, this is a topic that has been discussed before with varying outcomes, and it needs to be discussed properly before any page move is made.
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per WP:Commonname. When mainstream sources talk about apartheid (without caveats), they are referring to pre-1994 South Africa, where the system and the word itself comes from.
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It’s a term particular to a specific situation in South Africa. Secondary and contemporary usages can be mentioned in primary article, but it is a specific historical term.
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based on UN guidelines, Amnesty International, and many other international organizations to be more than just one historical instance (such as "
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I realise that this was discussed a few months ago, immediately above. But things have moved on. Thoughts?
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That’s not how the word, alone, is generally used. This is like trying to abstract “the Holocaust”
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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in the American South constituted apartheid. The term is increasingly being used to describe the
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A user added a "country" infobox to this article recently. I have reverted it based on
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this article is renamed to cover South Africa only and a fresh article covers Israel
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is a South African word and institution, whereas other uses are more novel.
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The South African system is the primary topic for Apartheid.
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for general discussion about apartheid. Any such comments
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of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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