2736:ā I apologise for my eariler comment, it was slighty harsh and ill-mannered. However I do stand behind my decision to make the edits. Let me point out to you, Alistair, that you are the only one in this conversation that disagrees with the intergration policy. Everyone else here believes that it fits with WP:NPOV or is indifferent towards it. For this reason, I believe that majority rules. However there may be others not voicing their opionion. For this reason, as I not familar with the procedure for this, in the interest for fairiness I ask that someone sets up a vote. If it is agreed that it should be intergrated, we re-revert my edit, if not, we remove the header comment from the critisism section and speck of this no more. However, the wording of the critisims, I think we all agree, will need revision in the former case.
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2048:- itunes can sort (in list mode), but can not group. No one decides how many views are enough, but iTunes clearly has only one type of grouping (by albums) where competing software and even iPod itself has much more types. Sources are: First source is a blog post where three types of views in iTunes are described. Second and third are feature list on the official pages of competing media libraries software.
2377:. This is Knowledge policy that you can go argue over there and has been discussed many times in the archives for this page. By the way, reverting the change wholesale as one user last week did saying See Talk without mentioning it on Talk is not the answer. Not that the references that were in there were perfectly fine, it is the seperate section that is not. --
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clearly useless in that regard if one is trying to learn about the number of issues (particularly extremely slow functioning in
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Just had a look and you are right but I also noticed something else. The article certainly seems to imply they only work with itunes: 'While iTunes is required to manage the audio of an Apple iPod portable audio player'. Which is definitely false. There are a number of programs that can do so. Only a
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When I try to burn a CD, I get a "thwap" noise randomly inserted into the songs, like what used to happen when you download a corrupt file from Kazaa or wherever. I assume this is some sort of copy protection...it doesn't happen on songs I bought from iTunes, or songs I took directly from another CD.
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The WP:Criticism says that if the points can be intergrated, they should. I sucessifully intergrated them. I will not go into an edit war for this. If you see any reason to remove my edits that does comply with policy, please outline it here. I will leave the edits reverted for the moment, if anyone
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As people already told above - apple fans will not make this article observe NPOV and will remove any edits they don't like - I see that now. And I also see that criticisms section was added just to make this article look like it is neutral, while it is not - you do not let me to add anything to it,
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can group your music by any parameter - genre, artist, year - anything you like. iTunes media library as well cannot keep itself in sync with actual files on disc - if you delete or move any files changes will not be tracked by iTunes, and it will display error about missing files every time. There
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What about the problems people are having with the itunes updater forcing safari updates? Is this a valid criticism? Additionally, I was wondering if from a technical standpoint, does Itunes already have a safari-run browser in order to look at the itunes store? You are essentially loading a web
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It is depressing when you have an article of this magnitude that has ACTUAL proper criticisms with proper sources YET whenever a section is added or anything negative is added the throng of Apple devotees come running and immediately delete the information. The problem I see with this article is it
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Is it just me, or does this article seem like it was authored by Apple specifically? I don't see any indications of neutrality...I know I'm not the only person on the planet who doesn't worship itunes. I can't cite myself as a source for criticism for obvious reasons...Does anyone know what sources
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OK, I have been "hearing" about songs (including a few I'd like to download) wrongfully labeled explicit on iTunes. According to Yahoo! Answers, a few people (probably teenagers) have been complaining stuff like "How is this song EXPLICIT?", and on a few of the responses, people have responded that
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In the last paragraph of the criticism section, should the person criticizing iTunes' inability to track files be listed by name? He's not a particularly notable author, so the paragraph just feels awkward to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone was able to find a good source for this point,
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Quicktime by default, and installs Apple Software Update which by default installs Safari on your machine, not to mention the Bonjour services on
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No kidding. This is a puff piece, and viewing the discussion archives, it's clear there are some serious Apple apologists quashing any sort of criticisms of this product. Knowledge is usually a very good start to look at a topic and find links that address a subject in more detail. This page is
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Hello? Are you reading anything I'm writing? As a avid music lover and programmer, I realize that iTunes can certainly be improved in many ways. I have no problem with any of the criticisms listedā they are all pretty well written and well sourced. I just think they belong in their respective
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You want one reason I'll give you one. It makes it a lot easier for people to find the criticism. This article is very long (about five thousand words), integrating three little paragraphs (of about two hundred words) into the article is basically hiding them. And whether the article is BETTER or
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First of all I'd like to note that reverting an innocuous banner that directs people to discuss the matter is poor form. Regardless a quick check of the Talk archives shows this issue has been debated at least four times before. Furthermore it has been the policy of most Apple related pages to
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and then edit the article to include criticisms that are well sourced. Well sourced criticisms won't be removed from the article. If you add your own personal criticisms, or ones that are sourced with anonymous postings on an internet forum, more than likely they are going to be quickly removed.
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I know the page is probably going to be rewritten, but as it currently stands, iTunes is NOT open soruce(not a typo), nor open source. It is freeware. There is a very good chance(p=1.00,q=0.00 for you data management folks) that it will remain closed source for the lifetime of Apple. I didn't
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Are you aware of the browser feature? In List mode click the little button in the bottom right with the eye icon, or select "Show
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Would it also be worthwhile to point out that iTunes won't install properly on XP64 without user tweaking, and even then has limited functionality? I am not sure if this is also the case with Vista 64, but it seems a worthwhile point to make as increasing numbers of people take up AMD64/EM64T
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Jukebox), and HP did for a while, particularly while they were selling HP branded iPods, but don't seem to anymore. I don't have any firm sources for either, so I'll leave the edit to someone else.
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more neutral with the criticisms integrated is purely a matter of opinion. There are thousands of articles with criticism sections. Concensus seems to be to include criticism sections. Especially with software articles. BTW I'm editing the heading because as it stands it is false.
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The whole article needs to be rewritten. It looks like advertising brochure, and contains no "Criticism" section at all. Why I'm not doing this myself? As it is already told above - every such attempt to observe NPOV is reverted back by apple fans. And I am not going to start the
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iTunes music library database cannot keep itself in sync with actual files on disc - if you delete or move any files changes will not be tracked by iTunes, and it will display error about missing files every time. There is a number of third party tools to solve this problem.
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Why do you remove both of criticism items I've added? Okay, let's move those things to feature list - iTunes cannot remove dead links, many 3-rd party software is available to do that - itsn't it worth mentioning? And the second one, about grouping - did you read the
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While I disagree that the article is written like an advert, I do believe the article is pretty crap as it is. I think a year or two ago it was better, when it was more than just an exhaustive list of features. Perhaps the article should be tagged with a
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Knowledge. Merging criticism into the article is hiding it, which is proved by all the comments over the last few years that questioned why the article contained no criticism when it clearly did.
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How exactly is Apple's media player patent similar to the Apple v Microsoft GUI lawsuit? I would say this is exactly the opposite. Songbird is obviously a direct clone of iTunes, Apple has a patent, but IIRC haven't challenged the Songbird developers.
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integrate these criticisms. Finally, I reiterate that I have no problem with the actual criticisms (except for the wording which seems borderline POV -- "so and so has criticized"), but it shouldn't be consolidated into its own section.
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I think this is something that needs citation. Also, will this only work on a Mac? Or is it for Windows as well? In light of many people crying for "official" support of this format, I think there needs to be some sort of explication.
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I think the Features section should be parried down to just mention the major features and the History section should be built up again to the size it was a year or two ago. I've started this process and will continue when I have time.
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Dell doesn't bundle iTunes with their computers, I think HP does though as they have previously made their branded iPods although I can't confirm it. iTunes is bundled with OS X on all Macs. That should be worded correctly in the line.
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can see due reason why they should stay. And please do not use the tired excuse that crticism sections exsist in other articles. if that were the reasoning behind every decision, every page would be a stub, plagued with typos, etc.
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What do you mean it can only group by album? Click on the heading "Artist" and it groups by artist. Click on "Genre" and it groups by genre. Click on "Album" and it can group by album, by "Album by artist", "Album by year", etc.
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I changed the wording of the section to more precisely reflect the content of the sourced article. If you're going to seek an edit, change it word by word. There is too much relevant information in the section to just delete.
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nominate if for deletion because the content is really just Apple hype or spam? And on top of this it's a "good article"? Please. It fails miserably under the scope category even under the most generous of factual analysis.
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considered) are not explicitly forbidden. No, integrating the criticism is not "hiding" it at all. And making it "easier for people to find the criticism" really sounds like it's giving undue weight to the criticism itself. ā
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I also added the advertisement tag. It reads more like an advert for the program then a general history of it. It has no criticism parts. No text about the faults with the program and all others pertaining.
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I agree with most of the discussion here. There are no criticisms of iTunes' closed nature or the locked-in feeling some people get (I'd have to find some sources for this claim) when they use their iPods.
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Am I the only one whose iTunes skips during songs? I'll be listening to a song and it will skip as if it's a CD. I thought maybe it had something to do with the new CDs I loaded, but I don't know.
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Upon purchase of an iPhone, users must use iTunes to select and purchase a contract tariff before the phone features may be used. iTunes also syncs media to the iPhone, much like an iPod."
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Remember when we had a pic of a dude browsing through of all the iconic pink floyd album covers? Yeah...U guys got two days to add that back in, or that's it..I'LL DO IT MYSELF!
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I've also added a Criticism section. Please don't see this as an invitation to add every random personal gripe you have with iTunes. Please stick to our policies on
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I am not removing it however I suggest highly it DOES get removed.... This page could be written badly but it is needed on Knowledge.... May i suggest that
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Sorry but those examples you've linked to are more to do with the criticism being removed because it is incorrect, badly written, unsourced or all three.
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Is there any way to fix this? Does this normally happen with iTunes?
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Is this how I should create the citations? I can't work it out!
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left panel on screetshots, or better download it youself. --
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164:Remind me why we took out the Pink Floyd slector?
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1980:and Y, does not constitute good sourcing. From
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