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606:"Rev. Dr. Lee movingly testified to messages", "...the fiery and explosive work of the Holy Spirit...", "Blind eyes were opened to see and ears that could not hear came to hear" - those are a very few examples of utterly inappropriate and unencyclopedic phrases that abound in this text. Add to this the fact that this article seems to make the claim, in direct contravention of Knowledge policies, that Lee can actually perform miracles of healing. In addition, criticism and counter arguments have been removed or whitewashed, sometimes to the point of saying the exact opposite of what the sources state. 124: 106: 75: 215: 194: 21: 134: 613:
Another important issue is to do with non-free content. Bits of the promotional blurbs of Lee's books, and text taken straight from press releases, have been pasted into the article. It's difficult to find all the individual instances, because they crop up everywhere, and that's a very big problem.
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Rev. Dr. Jaerock Lee is also the founder of World Christian Doctors Network WCDN.It is entrusted with medically affirming the cases of divine healing as clear manifestations of God. Testimonies of healing of diseases by medical professionals are more credible than those of ordinary people. Towards
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The tone of this article is not factual and neutral, but comes across as a promotional brochure aimed at people who belong to to Lee's particular denomination or doctrine of Christianity. Cases in point: "Lee knows that Christians lives are to be holy and should be empowered by the Holy Spirit",
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I was wondering if anybody felt that this article was written in a subjective style? I get the overwhelming feeling that the article focuses on Lee's personal journey and not on an objective account of his life. Significant insights such as Lee's early life where "everybody abandoned him" are
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Third, it is very unlikely that the news story should have been removed because the corporation suddenly, several years later, changed their minds about it. It is much more likely that older archives were removed from the website. Another likely theory is, unfortunately, that the link in the
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A religious heresy claim is difficult to judge. In most cases, the critic is automatically biased toward advocating his or her own belief rather than being able to evaluate and judge objectively. A best way is just to provide factual and historical information in the article without too much
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paraphrased from inspirational editorials by pastors. To me statements on Lee's emotional condition like these should be attributed to their originators or Lee's actuals opinions on his early life quoted. Anything else reads sermonizing and does not belong in this encyclopedia? --
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When going through the history of the article I have discovered a lot of information and sources regarding criticism of Lee, his excommunication, him being prevented from entering various countries, etc - all that has been washed out of the article. I'll start restoring any
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First, just because an Internet link is dead it does not follow that the source becomes invalid. The source is not the link, it is the original publication that is the source for the information. Many sources on Knowledge have never existed on the Internet. See
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The article needs a lot of work by people who are not affiliated with Lee's organisation. At the moment, there are many editors who work only on articles connected to Lee and his work, and it seems probable that there is a strong conflict of interest here.
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I have come across that Orthodoxy and Heresy, published in June 2004 by The Union of Korean Presbyterian Churches, Inc. after many years of research, concluded that Manmin Joong-ang Church is a sound congregation based on faithful doctrines of the gospel.
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First of all, he was excommunicated as a cult leader from his own denomination (Church of Holiness) in May 1990 and from the Korean Christian Association (Han K Chong) on the 30th of April 1999 because of his unbiblical
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interpretation or evaluation. I believe the current article is fairly based on facts and reports without an undue interpretative process involved. It would be safe and fair to leave the article alone.
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that end, WCDN is testifying to the living God and the truthfulness of the Bible through science to those who deny or doubt God's existence in the Last Days.—
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such information, because it is completely inappropriate to use Knowledge to promote and glorify a person whilst removing sourced criticism against him. --
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I think this articles describe negative viewpoint and narrow-minded about a living person. And there are many missed points. Something are not true.
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Knowledge article has been intentionally sabotaged in the past - that has happened with other links to news sources critical of Lee
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sources (mainstream newspapers, etc.) which speak favourably of Jaerock Lee. Unfortunately you may find those are in short supply.
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Dr. Lee Jae-Rok is under arrest for sexual crimes in Korea. I'm not good at English! Please add this!
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