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A few do, but it's clearly a minority usage. Its coming out of nowhere (the company no longer uses that variant in their logo, nor in running text). And it doesn't make any sense; we wouldn't do this to any other contraction. When's the last time anyone saw, e.g., a song title in the form "D'Ont
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shows a weaker (60%+) preference for Kosh/Gosh, with a pretty strong showing for kosh/Gosh(the choice of ONR and Dolotta here). The least prevalent appears to be the proposal here of no camel case. All told, I'd say that argues for the status quo, which is the most common variant in books and
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I object to the claim that the G is only capitalized for stylization, because it may be a contraction of "By Gosh", which would make "Gosh" a separate word and capitalized in title-case. However, the K is a clear case of only being capitalized in stylization.
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being a proper name, I wouldn't put much weight on that – the brand has a long life of its own, and I would say that the city is pretty well-know internationally due to the brand, rather than the other way round.
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Oshkosh now operates two plants in Kentucky, making less than 10% of the companys merchandise. The rest is produced by subsidiaries in Mexico and Honduras, or outsourced to third-party manufacturers.
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With over 90% sources using "OshKosh", I have little doubt about the judgment. While I support the spirit of MOS:TM, I'm wary of occasional holier-than-thou applications.
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Trademarks in CamelCase are a judgment call. CamelCase may be used where it reflects general usage and makes the trademark more readable.
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Well, YMMV what constitutes a "wild mix", and "strong showing". From your searches above, first 40 hits (two pages):
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When deciding how to format a trademark, editors should examine styles already in use by independent sources.
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shows a clear (80%+) preference for Kosh/Gosh, quite a few kosh/Goshes and very few kosh/goshes. And a
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I have no strong objection to the CamelCase here, but I think Oshkosh is as clear, and is in use.
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at different publishers. No convergence on the non-overcapitalized form is required. Per
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consistently, but the proposed form certainly isn't near a point of convergence.
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is correct that a Google News search shows 90%+ usage of "OshKosh B'gosh". But a
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in it; the capitalization in the logo is just stylization for its own sake.
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is a proper name, not a made-up text string, and it does not have a capital-
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explicitly addresses camel case and its standard is not "not always" but
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scholarship. NSU's alternative of Kosh/gosh would also be supportable.
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No details about the origins of the name? What does B'Gosh stand for?
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try to mimic the "over-capitalizing" stylization. Maybe not
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in "B'gosh" that is almost always on the lower-case side.
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452:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 190:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 85:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 1019:seems, to me at any rate, to be the best solution. 802:. No further edits should be made to this section. 1302:. No further edits should be made to this section. 543:, a project which is currently considered to be 1081:. What a mess! Sources are all over the place. 752:http://www.answers.com/topic/oshkosh-b-gosh-inc 1033:But sources never cap the G, so why would we? 8: 310:Category:Company articles needing infoboxes 297:Category:Company articles needing attention 19: 788:The following is a closed discussion of a 574: 503: 398: 259:Here are some tasks awaiting attention: 237: 136: 47: 576: 505: 400: 138: 49: 1264: 973: 915: 943:. 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