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Community: Speaking of photos of the campus, a shot picturing the brilliant cement Archway entrance to the Hill, from the town, should be taken. A wonderful idea, and probably a class gift. If one parks in the town (below), the entrance is commonly through this arch, and up the path
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I'm a parent of a prospective student who took pictures of the beautiful
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which, perhaps, the marketing department of
Lafayette will get wise to, and write something here (on this talk page) and I can help them get pictures of people uploaded to de-zombify the wikipage. Beautiful school overall. Here are photos which you may wish to consider adding. Check out the one with
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Bergethon, the President starting in 1958, who got rid of the Jewish admission quotas that Lafayette had had until then; Whatever President led the move to coeducation WW Watt -- English prof in the 1940s
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Athletics section, in order to keep pace with similar Knowledge pages, like Bucknell's and Providence's pages. We are attempting to receive a 'Good Article' award, and using pages like those as examples. In addition, all of that
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onward-- who was a BMOC, had a best selling edited compilation (which I still use), and coached
Lafayette's undefeated College Bowl Team Albert Gendebien, who did the significant history of the college ?? Welch, who edited the Federalist papers. This is just my era.
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