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533:, since the division isn't independently notable. At best it would be a section in the main LSE article. Even if we suspected it were notable, this would be difficult to demonstrate, since it's unlikely that many sources will distinguish the two exactly correctly, and are apt to refer to, e.g., corporate decisions by LSE as decisions made by LS, and so on. This stuff happens all the time in lower-end business journalism (and even higher-end non-business journalism). It's much the same as political writers' expediency/license when referring to "what Trump has done", "what the Trump White House has done", "what the Trump Administration has done", "what the US Government under Trump has done", etc. To anyone with a poli-sci or constitutional law background, none of those are necessarily synonymous, but they'll be used as if they are by incautious writers. 31: 515:. In theory, a separate article could be written on the predecessor companies, as has been done with many pinball companies that got merged out of existence, but billiards writers are less obsessive about such stuff than pinballers, so it will probably never happen. Anyway, "these companies have merged" is not a fact that changes how WP writes, it's simply a fact for WP to write into the relevant articles. This is closely related to 396:
definitely not a small matter. Furthermore, User:Matthew hk indicates: “World Sport Group once as a listed company, it is very complicated to merge it “. This ancillary argument is the icing on the cake for a case against merging. The two points make a strong case. The argument that the articles are “related” and should be merged is not as sound an argument.
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be merged into this page. World Sport Group no longer exists as a separate entity, having been absorbed into Lagardère Sports and Entertainment, but its legacy continues as part of a greater division within the Lagardère corporate structure. Merging this page into the other seems the most objective
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User:Matthew hk notes: Both World Sport Group and Sportfive were acquired and their brand name became defunct. These are two important points which strongly argue against merging. Branding drives the sum of people's perception of a company and companies strive to make brands distinct. It is
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642: 491:. All three of these entities are independently notable, so should retain articles, cross-referenced as needed, and without anachronistic facts in them. This is the general approach we take with modern mergers (e.g. 643:
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covers pre-Lagardère acquisition, with one event (the content moved by me to Lagardère SE) regarding the protest of increasing broadcasting fee, how "not enough" for the content? For
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were acquired and their brand name became defunct. As well as World Sport Group once as a listed company, it is very complicated to merge it .
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I suggest keeping both Sportfive and World Sport Group as historical entities and moving content since they were acquired (by Lagardère) to
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or Lagardère Sports (a subdivision of Lagardère Sports and Entertainment, current status in wiki is a redirect).
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has enough notability on its own. The case might be different for a smaller and less notable subsidary. Best,
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The company World Sport Group was acquired by Lagardère Sports and Entertainment, part of the conglomerate
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474:- no strong feelings as long as the information remains available in some form 378:-- does not make sense to have two separate articles on these related topics. 439: 343: 145: 492: 660:
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520: 442:, that's lots of content cover both pre- and post- acquisition. 98:.Skew towards having seperate articles.Status-quo is maintained. 258:° Please can an uninvolved admin close this stale discussion? 25: 627:
for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Talk:World Sport Group
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Lagardère Sports and Entertainment
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