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doesn't serve much of a purpose. I kind of wonder if things were cleaned up some, with some more meaningful quotes, if it wouldn't be in better shape. (I don't know for sure though, I haven't gone to check the sources to see if there's much else to pull from them, and I tend to stay away from working
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An anon above had stated that the characters from this game are omitted from this list. They also pointed out that there are several characters we could add. I'd also like to state that Portable Ops is indeed canon to the Metal Gear series. Someone needs to add a section for Portable Ops and put the
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which everyone here is so passionate about, I think the article is being judged waaaaaaaaaaay too harshly. Take a look at the large number of comic book character articles; most don't ha44534543534534ve reception sections at all. I'm NOT saying that's a good thing, but... Really? This article has
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so someone might transcribe it and use for sources. (Here I also wonder what "A Kurd? So thats why you're called Wolf." might mean, because I have no idea. No, "Kurd" is not "wolf" in Kurdish or Arabic for that matter. Maybe some mythology / national ethos, like with Chechens, but I don't know.)
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And by no I mean don't. No more reliable sources are even needed at all, because it's already complete (unless someone wants to check some reviews for what they said, but that's not me). Or paper magazines for something from before 2006 and especially from 1996 (or 1997, for awards), but I don't
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No, I know what you mean. Part of the reason I was suggesting we come up with specific guidelines for VG character articles at WP:VG is that sometimes it seems character articles are held to an unnecessarily high level of scrutiny that goes beyond the GNG. (However, I do think the opposite is
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Portable Ops has more importance than the Ac!d games and Ghost Babel because those are non-canon spin offs. There are several charcters who first appear in Portable Ops, such as Gene, Cunningham, Elisa/Ursula, Python, and Colonel Scowronski, so we could easily make a section for it.
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Meryl is listed in the chart as "main" in MGS2 when, from looking up transcripts, she plays no role in that game, outside of the non-canon, optional Snake Tale missions which are only in Substance, which I think would qualify her for either "guest" or "recurring".
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back into the main article. I think the article's scope is limited, and Sniper Wolf was demerged without discussion. Unless we can find more reliable sources, I believe we should merge Sniper Wolf back into Metal Gear. Any comments or objections?
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The article needs some resources that are not based on Top 10 style lists. So far, the article's scope is limited and with one paragraph in the lead, a limited creation section, and no game quotes, it still does not meet the criteria of
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What do you mean by repeat them? Also, I brought up the fact that this game is canon because I meant that the characters introduced in this game are more important the characters in the non-canon spin off games, such as Metal Gear Ac!d.
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I apologize in advance if I seem pesky or annoying, but I am not getting any responses for the above section called "Portable Ops". We must add a section for characters in this game. If you disagree, then please state why.
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probably more of a problem too, with people thinking "Oh, Character X has been around in the background in three games now! Surely it's time someone points this out in the form of it having its own article!" )
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I don't know. There are an awful lot of third party sources in the reception section for me to argue in favor in need of merging. However, a lot of the sources aren't really used very well. Quotes like
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on Character type articles very much for the very reason that there seems to be so much disagreement as to what the threshold is for notabilty with these characters.)
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Removed Naked Snake's section. For some reason, users tend to divide each section whenever a new name is given to the characters similar to "Liquid Ocelot".
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Because they are canon it doesn't make them more important. In fact, none of them return in another game unlike some from Ac!d that reappeared in a sequel.
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And repeat the same character descriptions every time? We don't need you to remind us about MPO's canonicity, we know that perfectly well, thank you. --
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I have played a few Metal Gear games. I think "the Patriots" deserve a special article here, as they were a significant influence in the plots.
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I'm sorry, but are you really THAT DESPERATE to see an MPO section here? All you've done so far is quack off on any talk page you can find. --
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Thanks for that clarification. I kept on searching for "Shadow Wolf", and the only thing coming up was a page for some finnish musician...
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Why do we not have a section for characters from Portable Ops? There are several introduced, such as Gene, Python, Elisa/Ursula, etc...
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Not like I'm down on my knees and begging, but yes, I'd like to see a section for it. This list just seems incomplete without it.
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So is there a general consensus here or not? A simple "yes" or "no" plus rationale will do, unless we must bring this to a vote.
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Then perhaps we chould add Portable Ops in, then make a section dedicated specifically to non-canon spinoffs? Good idea or not?
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Master Miller and Kazuhira Miller are the same character, just with different names. So why do they have seperate sections?
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Big Boss and Naked Snake are the same character, just with different codenames. So why do they have seperate sections?
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good references, good reception, good appearances, a good layout... It's actually pretty good and deserves to stay.
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But speaking of it, Psycho Mantis has loads of reception. I just never liked him, but maybe someone else does. --
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I would say yes, but it should be considered what characters are relevant to the plot in order to avoid
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Please, please, PLEASE respond to this. State why you would or would not add this section.
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So should we make a section for it? Like I said, it's an important game in the series.
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really see any urging need for that neither because it's more than enough already . --
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That's not the only game lacking. The list also lacks the Metal Gear Acid characters.
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I have never played the updated version so you must be right. Be bold.
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Sniper Wolf should not be merged back into the main article for now.
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The article does look small and it was demerged without discussion.
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But I know. Also there's a lot of unused character exposition in
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