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Houston was ill with the tuberculosis that would end his life a decade later. He resigned from the NAACP to return to private practice; Thurgood Marshall took over for him. In the first five years after the war, the NAACP found more plaintiffs and challenged segregationist policies in public graduate
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I added his approx age at disappearance. It is commonly (if perhaps inaccurately) believed that he was abducted and murdered by racists, but no clues (and no Klan-type bragging) ever materialized, and Chicago seems (now) an unlikely place for Klan activity. By now, of course, anyone with first-hand
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It is unclear from the article which law school has Mr. Gaines' portrait. It is not the school created by the Missouri General Assembly, the Lincoln University School of Law, as a result of the Supreme Court decision because that school ceased to exist in 1955. The article refers to "the law
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The Supreme Court of the United States issued its decision in December, 1938, and remanded the case to the Supreme Court of Missouri. On August 1, 1939, the Supreme Court of Missouri ordered a hearing to be held, so that it could be determined whether the newly-created law school at Lincoln
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had talked to him on a visit to Mexico in the late 1940s. The article does establish that Gaines was growing weary of his role and may have wanted to walk away from it; it advances the theory that some segregationist(s) paid him a lot of money to just get out of the country and disappear.
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If Gaines had disappeared 6 months previously, it seems unlikely that the court would have proceeded with the case. I do not recall the citation at this point, but I recall reading that the hearing was set for October, 1939, and that Gaines disappeared a few weeks prior to that.
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It is and that's what was intended ... I was unsure if Lincoln still had a law school since the sources established that the one started in 1939 was closed during the war for lack of students, so I didn't distinguish there, and I thought the antecedent was clear. Apparently not.
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I would disagree. Google has been known to change which pages of a book it allows a viewer access to, or sometimes even end preview mode on a book entirely. Providing an access date indicates to the reader that these pages were available for public viewing when the article was
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His surviving relatives say that his family probably believed as much—they were from rural Mississippi and knew all too well how the Klan worked and would have known not to say anything at the time. But the writer of the above-cited article talks to two people who say that
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Indeed. I just looked at it on Google Books. It had not been written, much less published, when I first wrote and researched this seven years ago. As the authors say in the introduction, a book devoted to Gaines and his case was long
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can handle that omission quite easily) to just say "modern", since without a specific year as the target date for the adjustment it will automatically stay with the current year's value as the template is adjusted to keep up.
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Where you're citing a court case for anything other than the case's existence, cite the particular page where the relevant information is found; for example, the citation to Missouri ex rel. Gaines v. Canada (a, b, and
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I have access to a PDF copy of the 2016 book via my university library. If you would like chapters of the book for further improvement in the article, please let me know. That might help with (over-)reliance on the
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Well, they describe discrete events that are separated in time; I feel that since the second of the two grafs has a long blockquote it's easier on the reader for the first three sentences to be a separate graf.
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school" several times and that needs clarification. Having read several sources about Mr. Gaines, I think it is safe to say the portrait hangs in the University of Missouri School of Law, -- the oldest one.
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This has the makings of an extremely good article. It needs serious cleanup, and it has editorializing. I'm also going to look into whether there's a possible copyvio going on here.
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No need for access date on print publications. Even if you accessed via Google Books or similar, the page ranges relate to the edition which is already provided by the ISBN.
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University (for blacks) was equal to the law school at the University of Missouri (for whites). State ex rel. Gaines v. Canada, 344 Mo. 1238, 131 S.W.2d 217 (1939).
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Same as the source for the graf afterwards; someone else thoughtfully split up the graf and apparently forgot to put the source back in for the newly created graf.
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I shall avail myself of this, although I think I could find a copy in the two excellent university libraries I have access to. It would help the article a lot.
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The accuracy of information needs to be checked. The article indicates that Lloyd Gaines disappeared on March 19, 1939. I think it was later than that.
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immediately afterwards (If you want me to put this quote in an endnote so the reader can see where we're getting this from, I will).
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Katz, Hélèna (2010). James, 107–13. Whites, LeeAnn (2004). Can we get narrower page ranges please? One or two pages is best.
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That's not at all clear right now. You should add another citation either after the colon or at the end of the blockquote.
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does, telling us "the special counsel was optimistic about victory" in Gaines' case and discussing the limitations of
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I also took out one sentence that really didn't turn out to be true or at least supported by the sources I used.
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been able to look at it, in a library (I think) but it doesn't say anything that isn't repeated in the
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In that case, I would suggest using "current" instead. "Modern" history goes back to the 17th century.
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After doing some googling, I haven't been able to find any copyvio. Looks like this is an original.
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Again, you're going to need a source for this. The court case isn't going to support this info.
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These are helpful, but please state the year, i.e. 2019. Helps the article not go out of date.
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It's already been to DYK, actually, shortly after I wrote it (see the top of the page).
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On 17 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. There was no consensus. See
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And as for the ISBN, sometimes it refers to the online version, not the print one.
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You can cite the cases for their existence, but this needs a secondary source.
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The proposed topic is appropriate, but it needs better citations.
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After working as a clerk for the Works Progress Administration...
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needs to be cited inline if you plan to take this to DYK or FAC.
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section—have you tried to get a copy of the original article on
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By that time Gaines had received honors (some were posthumous)
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Two media outlets looked into the case, a half-century apart
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is it safe to say that he was probably murdered by someone?
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story, so I didn't find any reason to cite it as a source.
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Well, it probably isn't required for GA criteria anyway.
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