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Houston was ill with the tuberculosis that would end his life a decade later. He resigned from the NAACP to return to private practice; Thurgood Marshall took over for him. In the first five years after the war, the NAACP found more plaintiffs and challenged segregationist policies in public graduate
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I would disagree. Google has been known to change which pages of a book it allows a viewer access to, or sometimes even end preview mode on a book entirely. Providing an access date indicates to the reader that these pages were available for public viewing when the article was
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Indeed. I just looked at it on Google Books. It had not been written, much less published, when I first wrote and researched this seven years ago. As the authors say in the introduction, a book devoted to Gaines and his case was long
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can handle that omission quite easily) to just say "modern", since without a specific year as the target date for the adjustment it will automatically stay with the current year's value as the template is adjusted to keep up.
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Where you're citing a court case for anything other than the case's existence, cite the particular page where the relevant information is found; for example, the citation to Missouri ex rel. Gaines v. Canada (a, b, and
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I have access to a PDF copy of the 2016 book via my university library. If you would like chapters of the book for further improvement in the article, please let me know. That might help with (over-)reliance on the
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Well, they describe discrete events that are separated in time; I feel that since the second of the two grafs has a long blockquote it's easier on the reader for the first three sentences to be a separate graf.
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No need for access date on print publications. Even if you accessed via Google Books or similar, the page ranges relate to the edition which is already provided by the ISBN.
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Same as the source for the graf afterwards; someone else thoughtfully split up the graf and apparently forgot to put the source back in for the newly created graf.
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I shall avail myself of this, although I think I could find a copy in the two excellent university libraries I have access to. It would help the article a lot.
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immediately afterwards (If you want me to put this quote in an endnote so the reader can see where we're getting this from, I will).
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Katz, Hélèna (2010). James, 107–13. Whites, LeeAnn (2004). Can we get narrower page ranges please? One or two pages is best.
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That's not at all clear right now. You should add another citation either after the colon or at the end of the blockquote.
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does, telling us "the special counsel was optimistic about victory" in Gaines' case and discussing the limitations of
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I also took out one sentence that really didn't turn out to be true or at least supported by the sources I used.
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been able to look at it, in a library (I think) but it doesn't say anything that isn't repeated in the
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In that case, I would suggest using "current" instead. "Modern" history goes back to the 17th century.
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Again, you're going to need a source for this. The court case isn't going to support this info.
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These are helpful, but please state the year, i.e. 2019. Helps the article not go out of date.
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It's already been to DYK, actually, shortly after I wrote it (see the top of the page).
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And as for the ISBN, sometimes it refers to the online version, not the print one.
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You can cite the cases for their existence, but this needs a secondary source.
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suggest combining each of these paragraphs with the next paragraph per
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After working as a clerk for the Works Progress Administration...
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needs to be cited inline if you plan to take this to DYK or FAC.
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section—have you tried to get a copy of the original article on
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By that time Gaines had received honors (some were posthumous)
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Two media outlets looked into the case, a half-century apart
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story, so I didn't find any reason to cite it as a source.
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Well, it probably isn't required for GA criteria anyway.
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after the cite to indicate which page in the range?
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