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Sorry, I missed where you said "precision" before. So you're saying the current title is ambiguous? And the first-cited 2015 article uses both names. We don't usually go so much by official as by common names, so that's what you need to provide evidence of.
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from the JVPC. The MSMC was a prototype, and the JVPC is a different weapon. So why not just create a new article about the JVPC instead of trying to change the topic of this article? We seem to have more information here about the MSMC than about the JVPC.
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