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Anyway, as I've said, I think with a little bit of tidying this passes the GA criteria. I think the discussion about the show's plagiarism accussation is well-handled, and the other sections are all well-referenced. I'm going to place the article on hold for a week or so. Any questions just ask on my
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Is this an in-programme description, or from promotional material? I can't tell without a reference of some sort. In addition, do the joke Latin names (i.e "Canis self-absorbedbitchicus") appear in the series? If they do that's fine, but without a ref, a reader cannot tell. (I have only seen parts of
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Thanks for making a few changes. However, I can still see a few mistakes in the production section, i.e. "When writing for commissioned series began, the character of Nelson was depicted as being brash and obnoxious", probably as a result of its regrouping. If you could just have another look over
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I'm also a bit confused about some of the wording; for example, there's a big chunk that states "Described as: "The only wild fox in East London with subscriptions to all the major broadsheets (excluding The Sunday Times), Nelson is, as he never tires of introducing himself at dinner parties… 'An
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The whole production section is largely based on the documentary, which is fine, but I think it needs tightening up a bit. In fact, I would recommend that it's rather too long and unmanaged at present. I think that it would benefit from being split into slightly shorter subheadings, for example
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something like "development", "puppets", "recording", which will act as a good method of grouping material like the development of the show title before the filming information, as it feels a little tacked-on at the moment. Our Good
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